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The '''East Coast Summer Open''', a shitty-ass tournament at [[Carnegie Mellon]] poorly conceived and edited by [[Jerry Vinokurov]] and [[Eric Kwartler]]. Time management issues prevented the editing of roughly half the set, which ended being pretty terrible. [http://hsquizbowl.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2876 A whole bunch of people] were justifiably angry and the guilty duo prostrated themselves in penitence; as punishment, they were ordered not to fuck up anymore, which they haven't yet.

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 The '''East Coast Summer Open: Crime on Goat Island''', or '''ECSO''', was an open [[packet sub]] tournament held on June 24, 2006 at [[Carnegie Mellon]]. It was organized by [[Jerry Vinokurov]], who edited half of the set and recruited [[Eric Kwartler]] to edit the other half. However, time management issues prevented Eric from editing his half of the set as he was in Italy, resulting in a half-edited set rife with repeats, incorrect clues, and [[speed-checks]].
-The set is largely remembered as being the singular bad tournament produced by Jerry.
+The origin of the tournament name is lost to history. The main site at CMU is 365 miles from the Atlantic Ocean at its closest point.
 ==Mirrors==
-The main mirror was won by Michigan, with Chicago B placing second, Chicago A third, and VCU fourth. The stats (rosters included) have been lost to the aether, as this tournament was too old to have been uploaded to the stats archive.
+The main mirror was won by Michigan, with Chicago B placing second, Chicago A third, and VCU fourth.
 It was also mirrored at [[Cardinal Classic XVI]], the only Cardinal Classic not associated with [[Stanford]], where it was won by [[UCLA]] A.
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 ==External links==
-*[https://web.archive.org/web/20070901181349/https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/plitvak/Quizbowl/ECSO/Packets/ broken link to packets]
+*[https://hsquizbowl.org/db/questionsets/2640/ link to packets]
 *[https://web.archive.org/web/20070902160212/https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/plitvak/Quizbowl/ECSO/Stats/ECSO2006h_standings.html archived stats for main site]

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 ==ECSO 2==
-In 2010, [[Bruce Arthur]] and [[Doug Yetman]] ran '''ECSO 2''' at [[Hunter College]]; this time around, it was run on a previously-written set ([[ANGST]]) instead of being packet-sub. The announcement can be found [https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10107 here] and the stats [https://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/431/ here].
+In 2010, [[Bruce Arthur]] and [[Doug Yetman]] ran '''ECSO 2''' at [[Hunter College]]; this time around, it was run on a previously-written set ([[ANGST]]) instead of being packet-sub. The announcement can be found [https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10107 here] and the stats [https://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/431/ here]. Because the tournament was taking place at Hunter without the school's permission, the directions sent to the players outlined a circuitous route that was designed to avoid security guards. This included the statement, "In the words of Brown's [[Aaron Rosenberg]], '[expletive] tha POH-leece.'  Seriously, in this instance the fuzz are our worst enemies, so do all that you can to avoid contact with Hunter College security."
 ==External links==

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 ==ECSO 2==
-In 2010, [[Bruce Arthur]] and [[Doug Yetman]] ran '''ECSO 2''' at [[Hunter College]]; this time around, it was run on a previously-written set ([[ANGST]]) instead of being packet-sub.
+In 2010, [[Bruce Arthur]] and [[Doug Yetman]] ran '''ECSO 2''' at [[Hunter College]]; this time around, it was run on a previously-written set ([[ANGST]]) instead of being packet-sub. The announcement can be found [https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10107 here] and the stats [https://hsquizbowl.org/db/tournaments/431/ here].
 ==External links==

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 ==External links==
-*[https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/plitvak/Quizbowl/ECSO/Packets/ broken link to packets]
+*[https://web.archive.org/web/20070901181349/https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/plitvak/Quizbowl/ECSO/Packets/ broken link to packets]
-*[https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/plitvak/Quizbowl/ECSO/Stats/ECSO2006h_standings.html broken link to stats for main site]
+*[https://web.archive.org/web/20070902160212/https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/plitvak/Quizbowl/ECSO/Stats/ECSO2006h_standings.html archived stats for main site]
 ==References==

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 The '''East Coast Summer Open: Crime on Goat Island''', or '''ECSO''', was an open [[packet sub]] tournament held on June 24, 2006 at [[Carnegie Mellon]]. It was organized by [[Jerry Vinokurov]], who edited half of the set and recruited [[Eric Kwartler]] to edit the other half. However, time management issues prevented Eric from editing his half of the set as he was in Italy, resulting in a half-edited set rife with repeats, incorrect clues, and [[speed-checks]].
-There was also mirrored at [[Cardinal Classic XVI]].
+The set is largely remembered as being the singular bad tournament produced by Jerry.
-===Controversy===
+==Controversy==
-The [https://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=36471#p36471 ensuing discussion] was marked by a number of posts by parody accounts, including one by "YourGenialQuizmasterProxy" (a "proxy" of [[Charlie Steinhice]]) which highlighted the supposed hypocrisy of the set's lack of editing given Jerry's recent diatribe against Steinhice's consistently poor editing of [[Sword Bowl]].
+The [https://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=36471#p36471 ensuing discussion] was marked by a number of posts by parody accounts, including one by "YourGenialQuizmasterProxy" (a "proxy" of [[Charlie Steinhice]]) which highlighted the supposed hypocrisy of the set's lack of editing given Jerry's recent diatribe against Steinhice's consistently poor editing of [[Sword Bowl]]. [[Andrew Yaphe]] chose to refrain from commenting on the questions in the main forum until he "had a lot more to drink."<ref>[https://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=36423#p36423] by Birdofredum Sawin » Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:35 pm</ref>
 Nevertheless it was quickly established that, while the set was obviously bad, such comparisons were poorly founded: Jerry had demonstrated an ability to produce high quality sets like [[BUTT]] of the previous year, had clearly been put into a difficult situation by the total lack of editing by Eric, and made no excuses for the set's poor state.
-===Aftermath===
+==ECSO 2==
-The set is largely remembered as being the singular bad tournament produced by Jerry.
+In 2010, [[Bruce Arthur]] and [[Doug Yetman]] ran '''ECSO 2''' at [[Hunter College]]; this time around, it was run on a previously-written set ([[ANGST]]) instead of being packet-sub.
-In 2010, [[Bruce Arthur]] and [[Doug Yetman]] ran '''ECSO 2''' at [[Hunter College]]; this time around, it was run on a previously-written set ([[ANGST]]) instead of being packet-sub.
+==References==
 [[Category:Tournaments]]

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−	The '''East Coast Summer Open''', ~~a shitty-ass~~ tournament at [[Carnegie Mellon]] ~~poorly conceived and edited~~ by [[Jerry Vinokurov]] and [[Eric Kwartler]]. ~~Time~~ management issues prevented ~~the~~ editing of ~~roughly~~ half ~~the~~ set, ~~which ended being pretty terrible~~. [~~http~~://hsquizbowl.org/~~phpBB2~~/viewtopic.php?t=~~2876 A whole bunch~~ of ~~people~~] were ~~justifiably angry~~ and the ~~guilty duo prostrated themselves in penitence;~~ as ~~punishment~~, ~~they were ordered not to fuck up anymore~~, ~~which they haven't yet~~.	+	The '''East Coast Summer Open: Crime on Goat Island''', or '''ECSO''', was an open [[packet sub]] tournament held on June 24, 2006 at [[Carnegie Mellon]]. It was organized by [[Jerry Vinokurov]], who edited half of the set and recruited [[Eric Kwartler]] to edit the other half. However, time management issues prevented Eric from editing his half of the set as he was in Italy, resulting in a half-edited set rife with repeats, incorrect clues, and [[speed-checks]].
		+
		+	===Controversy===
		+	The [https://www.hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=36471#p36471 ensuing discussion] was marked by a number of posts by parody accounts, including one by "YourGenialQuizmasterProxy" (a "proxy" of [[Charlie Steinhice]]) which highlighted the supposed hypocrisy of the set's lack of editing given Jerry's recent diatribe against Steinhice's consistently poor editing of [[Sword Bowl]].
		+
		+	Nevertheless it was quickly established that, while the set was obviously bad, such comparisons were poorly founded: Jerry had demonstrated an ability to produce high quality sets like [[BUTT]] of the previous year, had clearly been put into a difficult situation by the total lack of editing by Eric, and made no excuses for the set's poor state.
		+
		+	===Aftermath===
		+	The set is largely remembered as being the singular bad tournament produced by Jerry.
		+
		+	In 2010, [[Bruce Arthur]] and [[Doug Yetman]] ran '''ECSO 2''' at [[Hunter College]]; this time around, it was run on a previously-written set ([[ANGST]]) instead of being packet-sub.

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