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Ophir Lifshitz: /* Standalone */ update and fix misinformation

2024-07-21T04:33:03Z

Standalone: update and fix misinformation

Kevin Wang: /* Standalone */

2021-10-01T14:49:20Z

Standalone

Kevin Wang: /* During the tossup */

2021-09-13T02:42:20Z

During the tossup

Brad McLain: MUSES II did not use TJ sheets - it used modified NAQT scoresheet templates uploaded to Google drive

2021-09-06T13:41:45Z

MUSES II did not use TJ sheets - it used modified NAQT scoresheet templates uploaded to Google drive

Kevin Wang: /* Online */

2021-08-25T01:13:52Z

Online

Kevin Wang: /* Online */

2021-08-25T01:13:35Z

Online

Kevin Wang: /* Google Sheets-based */

2021-08-25T01:12:03Z

Google Sheets-based

George Tagtmeier at 06:19, 10 August 2021

2021-08-10T06:19:10Z

Kevin Wang at 17:42, 6 August 2021

2021-08-06T17:42:39Z

David Reinstein at 00:09, 27 July 2013

2013-07-27T00:09:48Z

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 ====Standalone====
-In 2011, [[Gordon Arsenoff]] announced "WUStL: WUStL Updates Statistics Live";<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12340 WUStL Updates Statistics Live!: real-time Web scorekeeping] by [[The Friar]] » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:55 pm</ref> it is now defunct.
+In 2011, [[Gordon Arsenoff]] announced the web app "[[WUStL]]: WUStL Updates Statistics Live"<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12340 WUStL Updates Statistics Live!: real-time Web scorekeeping] by [[The Friar]] » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:55 pm</ref>; it was seldom used and went defunct by around 2014.
-The [[Neg5]] app was created by [[Mostafa Bhuiyan]] in 2016.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18220 Neg 5 : Quizbowl for the Cloud] by [[BlueDevil95]] » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:22 pm</ref> It is one of the most popular options because it is able to handle both scorekeeping and statkeeping and can produce live stats - however, the tendency for its server to go down in response to high load has caused many problems (including when it was used at [[2017 NSC]]<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=343918#p343918 Re: Stevenson Memorial Tournament (SMT) @ Harvard (3/31/2018] by [[1992 in spaceflight]] » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:11 pm</ref>). Additionally, Neg5 does not produce output in the [[SQBS]] format and thus cannot be hosted on the [[database]]; instead, they are hosted on a separate site (which long prevented them from being archived by [[HDWhite]]).
+The [[Neg5]] app was created by [[Mostafa Bhuiyan]] in 2016.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18220 Neg 5 : Quizbowl for the Cloud] by [[BlueDevil95]] » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:22 pm</ref> It was briefly popular and handled both scorekeeping and statkeeping (producing live stats reports). However, the tendency for its server to go down in response to high load caused many problems (including when it was used at [[2017 NSC]]<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=343918#p343918 Re: Stevenson Memorial Tournament (SMT) @ Harvard (3/31/2018] by [[1992 in spaceflight]] » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:11 pm</ref>). Additionally, Neg5 does not produce output in the [[SQBS]] format and thus cannot be hosted on the [[Quizbowl Resource Database]]; instead, they are hosted on a separate site (which long prevented them from being archived by [[HDWhite]]). As of 2024 it is still operational.
-[[Advanced Stats]], developed by [[Ophir Lifshitz]], was the first scoresheet to support [[detailed stats]]; its reader allows for [[buzzpoint]] collection and writing teams which make use of the system directly collaborate with Ophir to provide other requisite information. This was the first implementation of detailed stats and remains the best known - its name is often used metonymously to refer to the concept in general. Reports of individuals complaining about Advanced Stats (and online scoresheets more generally) prompted [[Will Alston]] to author the post "PSA - Don't be a Luddite"<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=336132#p336132 PSA - Don't be a Luddite] by [[naan/steak-holding toll]] » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:15 am</ref>. A sample of the tournaments which have used Advanced Stats include the modern iterations of [[EFT]], [[Sun God]], multiple years of [[Terrapin]] and [[ACF Regionals]], and [[WORKSHOP 2021]].
+The first [[detailed stats]] implementation (including digital scoresheets and a specialized packet format for collecting [[buzzpoint]]s and bonus conversion data) was developed by [[Ophir Lifshitz]] and introduced in the mid-2010s. Writing teams directly collaborated with Ophir to make use of the system. Complaints about it (and online scoresheets more generally) prompted [[Will Alston]] to author the post "PSA - Don't be a Luddite"<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=336132#p336132 PSA - Don't be a Luddite] by [[naan/steak-holding toll]] » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:15 am</ref>. Some of the earliest tournaments to use detailed stats were the modern iterations of [[EFT]], [[Penn Bowl]], [[Cal's Mid-Spring Tournament|CMST]], [[Sun God]], multiple years of [[Terrapin#Modern era|Terrapin]] and [[ACF Regionals]], and [[WORKSHOP 2021]].
-The [[MODAQ]] system developed by [[Alejandro Lopez-Lago]] is a standalone app for scoring and statkeeping which also supports the collection of detailed stats. MODAQ is the preferred scorer for [[QB League]], an online quizbowl league run by [[Daoud Jackson]], [[Joey Goldman]], [[Kevin Wang]], and [[Ryan Rosenberg]].
+[[MODAQ]] is a standalone app for scoring and statkeeping developed by [[Alejandro Lopez-Lago]] during the [[pandemic]] that also supports the collection of detailed stats by parsing packets with [[YAPP]] either in advance or on the fly. MODAQ was used for [[QB League]], an online quizbowl league run by [[Daoud Jackson]], [[Joey Goldman]], [[Kevin Wang]], and [[Ryan Rosenberg]].
 ==See also==

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	The [[MODAQ]] system developed by [[Alejandro Lopez-Lago]] is a standalone app for scoring and statkeeping which also supports the collection of detailed stats. MODAQ is the preferred scorer for [[QB League]], an online quizbowl league run by [[Daoud Jackson]], [[Joey Goldman]], [[Kevin Wang]], and [[Ryan Rosenberg]].		The [[MODAQ]] system developed by [[Alejandro Lopez-Lago]] is a standalone app for scoring and statkeeping which also supports the collection of detailed stats. MODAQ is the preferred scorer for [[QB League]], an online quizbowl league run by [[Daoud Jackson]], [[Joey Goldman]], [[Kevin Wang]], and [[Ryan Rosenberg]].
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		+	==See also==
		+	*[[Software#Scoresheets\|List of scoresheets]]

	==External links==		==External links==

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 ===During the tossup===
 *Each a time a player [[buzzes]] in, the result can be recorded in the cell corresponding to the current question and the player
-**The only exception to this is when the question is [[incorrect with no penalty]] (as can happen if a player is incorrect after the end of a question has been read or if the opposing team has already negged)
+**The only exception to this is when the question is [[incorrect with no penalty]] (as can happen if a player is incorrect after the end of a question has been read or if the opposing team has already negged); in some cases this is recorded anyways
 *When a player successfully converts a tossup, then they can proceed to the bonus
 **In the event that neither team is able to convert the tossup, the scorekeeper will not need to record any points for the bonus (which is skipped) and can proceed to the section for the next tossup.

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 As early as 2013, [[Ryan Rosenberg]] posted a set of online sheets (to little fanfare).<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=14525 Online spreadsheet scorekeeping] by [[ryanrosenberg]] » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:43 pm</ref> Around this same time, adoption of online score sheets in the [[SoCal]] region was quite high, with many local tournaments making use of scoresheets developed by [[Dana Lansigan]] of [[Irvine]]. These would continue to see use at tournaments hosted by [[UCSD]], which was also an early adopter of Advanced Stats.
-[[TJ Sheets]] is commonly used at high school tournaments. Its use at [[side events]] at the [[2021 Chicago Open]] ([[MUSES II]] and [[Scattergories 5]]) provided inconvenient after several teams were expanded to have five players, which was not supported by the sheets.
+[[TJ Sheets]] is commonly used at high school tournaments. Its use at some [[side events]] at the [[2021 Chicago Open]] ([[Scattergories 5]]) provided inconvenient after several teams were expanded to have five players, which was not supported by the sheets.
 [[Pandruwu Sheetz]] is often used in practices and scrimmages.

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 With online scoresheets, the [[runner]]s which had to ferry sheets between statkeeper and room are replaced by the transmission of data through the air. With reasonably fast WiFi ever-present in the schools and hotels which serve as [[site]]s for tournaments, it is more feasible than ever to run tournaments where every scoresheet requires [[internet]].
-For much of their existence, online sheets remained niche solutions employed by plugged-in teams and were predominant in the closer-knit college community. As recently as 2018, it was not the norm for high school tournaments to use online stats.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=351449#p351449 A Case for Online Scoresheets] by [[Bhagwan Shammbhagwan]] » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:15 pm </ref> The [[COVID-19 pandemic]] accelerated this even further by forcing quizbowl [[online]] and with it its scoresheets - all of a sudden, regions which had previously relied on paper sheets were forced to quickly learn how to use various online sheets. Some [[format]]s (like [[MSHSAA]]) continued to dodge modern technology by simply holding in-person tournaments during the second wave of a national pandemic.
+For much of their existence, online sheets remained niche solutions employed by plugged-in teams and were predominant in the closer-knit college community. As recently as 2018, it was not the norm for high school tournaments to use online stats.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=351449#p351449 A Case for Online Scoresheets] by [[Bhagwan Shammbhagwan]] » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:15 pm </ref> The [[COVID-19 pandemic]] accelerated adoption by forcing quizbowl [[online]] and with it its scoresheets - all of a sudden, regions which had previously relied on paper sheets were forced to quickly learn how to use various online sheets. Some [[format]]s (like [[MSHSAA]]) continued to dodge modern technology by simply holding in-person tournaments during the second wave of a national pandemic.
 ====Google Sheets-based====

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	[[TJ Sheets]] is commonly used at high school tournaments.		[[TJ Sheets]] is commonly used at high school tournaments.
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		+	[[Pandruwu Sheetz]] is often used in practices and scrimmages.

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-A '''scoresheet''' is a paper or electronic document used to track a quiz bowl game.
+<onlyinclude>A '''scoresheet''' is a paper or electronic document used to track the score of a quiz bowl [[game]]; it is also used as synecdoche for detailed results on the outcome of a game or the literal scoresheet used to record it.
 ==General scoresheet design==
-A typical design for a scoresheet consists of two halves, one for each team.  Each team's half consists of a number of columns, one for each player.  For each team there is also a column for tracking bonus points, as well as typically a column for tracking the running score.  Each row of the scoresheet has a toss-up number.
+A typical design for a scoresheet split horizontally into two symmetric halves, each labeled as belonging to one of the [[team]]s. A segment of the sheet, typically a row, is used to track the result of a specific [[tossup-bonus cycle]] and is labeled with the question number; these are divided into segments (typically columns) to record the score of their [[player]]s, the score on a bonus, on a question, and a running total.
-There is also a box below the toss-ups for tabulating the total number of toss-ups, powers, and negs of each player, as well as computing the total toss-up and bonus points for each team.  These stats are kept, and this tabulation process also serves as a double-check on the final score.
+===During the tossup===
-Scorekeeping is done as follows:
+===During the bonus===
 *When a player gets a toss-up, write the number of points earned (usually 10, or 15 in the case of a [[power]]) in the cell that is the intersection of the column of the player getting the toss-up and the row of the toss-up number.  Then, once that team's bonus is complete, write the number of points earned on the bonus in that teams bonus column in the same row.
 *When a player [[neg]]s, write &minus;5 in the cell that is the intersection of the player's column and the toss-up's row.
 *After each question, write each team's new running score in the running score column.
 ==External links==
 *[http://www.naqt.com/downloads/scoresheet.pdf NAQT's scoresheet]
 *[https://sites.google.com/site/hchsquizbowl/Home/excel-scoresheets Lily Chen's Excel scoresheets]
-*[http://quizbowl.zymichost.com/newscore/ Jacob Reed's online scoresheet app]
+*[https://justpredictions.webs.com/quizbowl/index.html Jon Pinyan's Excel spreadsheets]
-*[http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=14525 Ryan Rosenberg's online scoresheets]
+*[https://web.archive.org/web/20130827055233/http://young-frankenstein.wustl.edu/ WUStL (archived)]
 [[Category: Quizbowl basics]]

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	*[http://quizbowl.zymichost.com/newscore/ Jacob Reed's online scoresheet app]		*[http://quizbowl.zymichost.com/newscore/ Jacob Reed's online scoresheet app]
	*[http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=14525 Ryan Rosenberg's online scoresheets]		*[http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=14525 Ryan Rosenberg's online scoresheets]
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		+	[[Category: Quizbowl basics]]