Re: [quizbowl] Re: Sectionals questions

Quoting grapesmoker <no_reply_at_yahoogroups.com>:

> And it seems we've lost the tack of the original remark in the 
> process. The point made was that "compact" was ruled out by the use 
> of "countable" so what I said in my previous post is wrong in that 
> there are probably countable sets that are closed, but apparently 
> not ones that are compact. Serves me right for not reading the post 
> properly. I still stand by my statement that I don't believe in 
> the "vacuously closed" proof, however.
> 
In that case, you are wrong on two problems for the price of one.  My copy of 
Rudin is at my office, so it's not in front of me, but the vacuous proof of 
being closed is absolutely correct.  If it were not, then we would, for 
example, say that the empty set or the set containing only a single point would 
not be closed, which is certainly not standard usage.  Anyway, if you don't 
like that definition (and the proof that it generates), another definition used 
by some (mostly topologists), and certainly a theorem in baby Rudin, is that 
closed sets are those whose complements are open, a categorization which is 
easy to see for the natural numbers (when viewed as a subset of the real 
numbers).

As for your second mistake, a countable set can easily be compact.  The 
simplest example is to take your own example {1, 1/2, 1/3, etc} and add the 
single point {0} to the set.

Alex 

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