Re: Reinventing the wheel

Sigh.  Oh, well - this gives me something to do before the pool opens.

--- In quizbowl_at_yahoogroups.com, "darwins_bulldog1138"
<darwins_bulldog1138_at_y...> wrote:
> > Quick and dirty intuitive evidence of this -- how many of you have
> > met someone knew, told them you did quiz bowl, and been asked for a
> > sample question?  Happens a lot, right?  And when someone asks you
> > what a typical question is like, do you really pull some six-sentence
> > behemoth out of your vast memory banks?
> 

> Both of these comments speak to a dangerous principle: that the
> structure of quizbowl should be determined by people who do not like
> or are not involved in quizbowl. The sports analogy fits that bill
> somewhat as well. Why should preference be given to the wants of
> people who find playing more games "tedious" over those who don't?
> What does explaining the game to someone who's not involved have to do
> with anything?

Because people have jobs and travel commitments and papers.  It's
incorrect to say that you like quizbowl more than I do because you
want to play fifteen rounds while I get tired after ten.  Brevity is
the soul of wit and the boon of quizbowl tournaments that don't feel
like the Bataan Death March.

> 
> As for the "six sentence behemoth", I can hardly think of a way to
> write a tossup distinguishing between the top teams at ANY tournament
> that is not somewhere in the neighborhood of six *lines.* I'm not sure
> what sort of length you mean by "sentence"; if it's the many-claused
> type of sentence that I prefer than that would indeed be too long.
> 
Many-claused behemoths lead even longer, but there's no reason median
length have to be six sentences.  1) Optional anecdote ("angry
raisins"; 2)Hard clue; 3) Medium clue; 4) For ten points, easy clue.

The "tossup distinguishing between the top teams ...." is a
nonstarter.  Work consistently demonstrates to me the ability to
eliminate repetition to move down to the critical elements of a brief.
 Three-line tossups can have many more nuggets in them than six-liners.

> I'm fully prepared to write lengthy explanations of the answers to all
> the question I posed, if you really want me to, but I was hoping that
> certain things were already understood.
> 

This is an internet discussion group whose cohesion floats between
that of the world government in The Road Warrior and a post-Taliban
loya jirga.  Unless the statement is "quizbowl has some value", I'd
say that everyone else has the right to question every other statement.

Hayden

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