--- In quizbowl_at_yahoogroups.com, "Susan Ferrari" <srferrar_at_u...> wrote: > I am curious as to why a third-year player who has > apparently played in a dozen tournaments (two of them nationals) was > allowed to play in Division II. Carleton coach (me) to Kelly, in light of the requirement that teams submit a packet unless comprised entirely of players "in their first two years of collegiate competition": "Carleton isn't writing a packet for ACF Fall, and will be attending the tournament at Iowa State with only players who have been playing for less than two years. I have a question, however, concerning one player who we'd like to bring, but won't if it would require us to write a packet -- something we're just not logistically going to get done for this tournament, in part because of the unusual busyness of my own schedule this fall. By one definition (probably the operative one, though I told him I'd check), he's not in his first two years of collegiate competition, as this will be the third academic year in which he will have played. Looked at differently, he's still in his first two "years," because he joined our team only during the second semester of 2001/02, and his first collegiate competion came in February 2002. Even if, as I rather assume, he would not be considered as still in his first two years of collegiate competition, I would ask whether we might get an exemption from the requirement and bring him without triggering the packet requirement for his team. We will have no other players except freshmen and sophomores. The player is Ezra Lyon. It appears that his inclusion or non-inclusion might be the difference between our bringing two teams to Iowa State or only one. He will, in fact, surely be our best player there if he can go. He also has a car, the use of which would help our transportation situation. Please advise." Kelly's response: "Sure, he can play as a second year player." Carleton coach to tournament director: "Carleton will be two teams, I guess, though one of them will be shorthanded. [...] One team will be all frosh. The other will be either one or two sophomores plus Ezra Lyon, about whom I emailed Kelly before and forwarded that exchange to you. He's in his third different season with us, but hasn't yet been playing for two years in the 24-months sense, as his first tournament was February 2002. Kelly okayed considering him as still in his 2nd year, at least for the purpose of our not wanting to have to write a packet if we included him. It's fine if you don't consider him as still in his 2nd year of collegiate play for the purpose of D2 classification though -- whatever ACF policy is, or whatever you think is the best policy there, will be fine with us." [Ezra played with one teammate, and wound up leading the tournament in scoring. He'd have been content either way as regards classifying his team. For what it's worth, I agree with Susan that a clearer definition of D2 for ACF purposes would be helpful.]
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