Re: Ken from Utah, the 18-time Jeopardy champion......

Contrary to what others may claim, I don't think it is at all
presumptuous to say that the primary purpose of such a forum as Yahoo
is to provide a way for active tournament players, editors, and hosts
to network in order to improve their own experiences being involved
with the game.  Advertising for and reflecting upon tournaments,
discussing gameplay-related theory (yes, this includes format wars, at
least when the comments are substantiated with evidence), and
soliciting for advice in developing a club should be universally clear
examples of what constitutes relevant QB discussion.

While game show discussion and clubhouse-style banter may be desirable
to some, and can be mildly entertaining in moderation, it can quickly
get to the point where it becomes a major distraction from the
aforementioned relevant topics at hand.  In the case of Ken Jennings
and his impressive Jeopardy run, for instance, his being on the show
and compiling his famous win streak are newsworthy, but when people
start posting frequent updates and commentary on the show, it gets
redundant and overshadows legitimate QB discourse (e.g. summer
tournament information and the question recently posted by the
incoming college freshman).

Now even I understand it would be unrealistic to advocate banning all
game show/clubhouse chat on the board, because I don't speak for
everyone involved in the game who does also contribute to the QB
circuit through it.  But that notion brings me to the issue of how
active involvement in the game is a sort of prerequisite for one's
posts to have any merit.  

One's knowledge and experience of the game, and the effort one puts
into it (not PPG!) may affect one's authority on certain specific QB
topics, but by and large being an active player or editor is not an
unreasonable metric for why other circuit members should take one's
posts seriously.  That's why, disagree though I may, I'm more 
interested in hearing the critiques of ACF made by someone like
Adelman who does have experience playing and running tournaments and
thus does have a stake in how the circuit evolves and how his comments
can affect it, as opposed to someone like Knapp, who plays a
non-standard tournament 3 years ago, decides to quit playing right
there, and lurks on the board posting non sequiturs for his personal
amusement.  

No offense, but there really should not be any objection to the
statement this board is supposed to accommodate QB players looking for
information and discussion of the game, not Mr. Knapp's desire for
personal validation nor spammers who don't care about the state of the
circuit at all and just want a few more views for their cheesy game
show/trivia website.  It's one thing to let near-spam clog up the
board, fill inboxes, and ensure that keeping track with recent
discussions and announcements and finding older posts in the future
will be a lot harder, but to tell QB players trying to engage in QB
circuit discussion on the Yahoo QB group to shut up or go elsewhere
for the sake of interests like the latter two mentioned is nothing
short of absurd.  Really, if you must repeatedly tell everyone about
your love of game shows or other off topic interests, there's two
established QB boards with forum sections specifically for that
purpose ( at www.hsquizbowl.org and www.collegebowl.org), that are set
up in ways so that actual QB discussion and announcements don't get
disrupted and people like me don't complain about excessive off-topic
posting.

Before I finish, I'll add a few quick thoughts to respond to the
latest ACF critiques mentioned.  Popularity does not indicate merit
(c.f. any book, music, or movie bestseller list).  The issue at hand
is not just ACF evangelism, but a genuine concern for preserving the
quantity and quality of question writers and packet submission
tournaments in the face of the proliferation of tournaments run on
pre-written high school question sets.  Finally, one contributing
factor to ACF's lack of popularity is the credence many teams who have
never played ACF themselves will give to the inaccurate, outdated
assertions that claim ACF only cares about obscure niche knowledge and
are spread by equally inexperienced individuals like Mr. Knapp (who
has never played an official ACF tournament, to my knowledge).  When
teams really do buy into this myth and staunchly refuse to try ACF
Fall or Regionals (and even circuit packet submission tournaments in
many cases) despite editors' earnest attempts to improve accessibility
it's not that easy to just sit back and "take a chill pill" when
deliberate misinformation is influencing the circuit.

P.S. To take my own advice and stop clogging up the board, this is my
last post for this netiquette topic on Yahoo.  If anyone wants to call
me out and debate this further on hsquizbowl or collegequizbowl, I'm game.

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