Re: Ken from Utah, the 18-time Jeopardy champion......

--- In quizbowl_at_yahoogroups.com, "Michael Angelo Sorice" 
<msorice_at_u...> wrote:
> Hey,
>    So 31 of 106 is about 29%, so we'll say that's about how much of
> the active circuit actually participated in ACF Regionals. 
Considering
> ACF Regionals packets to be "average ACF packets" (and this year's
> were considered by many to be anomalously hard with respect to other
> ACF Regionals, by the way) and considering that, of all teams
> attending ACF Regionals this year, about 10% averaged less than 50
> points per game, that would mean that approximately 26.20% of actual
> quiz bowl teams did, in point of actual fact, average over 50 PPG on
> average ACF packets this year. Further, these are actual statistics
> from actual games, which fact I mention because, when someone says
> "Team X wouldn't get Y points on packet Z," I assume you mean 
playing
> Empty Chair University D; against whom none of the games were 
played.
>    Therefore, the assertation that 90% of teams wouldn't score 50 
PPG
> on average ACF packets is, on the face of it even, with the facts
> available, demonstrably, trivially, and wholly false, inaccurate, 
and
> otherwise repugnant. Thanks for playing.
> 
> MaS

Fortunately, I love playing.  As I said a couple of posts ago, I 
think that the 90% wouldn't average more than 50 ppg was 
exaggerated.  I don't, however, think that it was all that far off, 
at least not to the point of being "repugnant."  Off the top of my 
head (and I have no data to back up what I am about to say, it is 
merely a guess based on a purely hypothetical situation), I would 
guess that if there were a tournament that had all of the active 
teams in the country (and 106 is a bit low for the total since many 
of the schools on that list have multiple teams, but I'll go with it 
for now since it is a fairly reasonable number) and that used ACF 
Regionals packets, from any of the last few years, somewhere between 
60 and 75% of those teams would average less than 100 ppg in actual 
game play.  I don't know about you, but I don't think that that's 
good (if it's actually true, which as I said before, I can't prove).  
You're right that with the given data, Mr. Knapp's assertation was 
wholely false; I just don't think that the data available is enough 
to disprove what he said, since he was speaking hypothetically about 
90% of all quizbowl teams.  Obviously we both disagree about this, 
but it seems pointless to considering arguing over it since there 
really is no way for either one of us to say conclusively what would 
happen if over 100 teams played against each other on ACF packets, 
because that just ain't gonna happen.

Michael Adelman
(Who just realized that he had forgotten to sign both of his last 
posts)

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