Re: IMPORTANT PENN BOWL INFO

Michael Angelo Sorice <*msorice_at_theinfamoushairboy.yahoo.invalid*> · Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:14:18 -0000

…What are you doing? This looks suspiciously like you're trying to
foment an argument on a subject about which you have no apparent or
expressed interest, between parties that appear to be in good
agreement otherwise, and for no good reason. If, in a region far
distant from your own, one tournament director accedes to a request of
another, what business is that of yours? Just whose cause are you
crusading for, here, and why?

The expressed purpose of the ATC is to create a set of accessible
questions of acceptable quality. Since you have decided to claim that
we are "[un]willing or [un]able" to produce such a set, I am compelled
to disagree with you in the strongest terms, and state my resentment
for your challenge to my honesty, my ability as an editor, or both.
Moreover, I sincerely question both your motives and evidence for this
claim.

If, after seeing the questions for or playing at an event that I've
edited, you wish to level any reasonable criticism of it that you
like, wherever you like, please feel free to do so. I have always done
my utmost to listen to, judge, and honestly and correctly react to
such feedback. However, for you to pre-judge our event, motives, and
abilities in these terms, without even a whit of an attempt to
substantiate or verify your claims, strikes me as not only hasty, but
also needlessly vindictive and pathetic.

MaS
--- In quizbowl_at_yahoogroups.com, "cromero00" <romero_at_t...> wrote:
> 
> I would like to suggest to Nick, that he hold PB on Jan 22. I would 
> also like to publically offer my assistance towards the continuation 
> of the PB tradition. If the date were to move, teams who annually go 
> to PB and Sword Bowl would be disadvantaged. If you move it to the 
> 15th you hurt MLK event which are typically held in Michigan and the 
> South. If you host it two weeks after SCT, it conflicts with CBI 
> regionals. The best place for it is clearly Jan 22. 
> 
> PB is the longest standing packet submission tournament and serves a 
> purpose to the community. I know that I enjoyed the three years I 
> attended. I think it is selfish of Matt Weiner to expect buffer 
> weekends for his event. 
> 
> What the ATC aims to do is admirable, but unfortunately their event 
> will undoubtedly be an ACF clone. One need only to look at the past 
> editting experience of Weiner, Sorice, and Frankel to know that 
> their idea of difficulty is well beyond that of Penn Bowl. The ATC 
> has some lofty aims, and if they succeed in them they will be 
> lauded. However, I do not believe that this group of editors is 
> willing or able to produce a set that will be enjoyable to teams 
> outside of the elitist ACF camps. 
> 
> I think Penn Bowl serves a broader base of teams, many of whom are 
> not traditional ACF partisans and enjoy PB as it is. There is no 
> reason to alter a tradition because Matt Weiner doesn't like it.