>>By the way, HCASC has a far greater percentage of NON-Black coaches and players than the "Circuit's" percentage of Black coaches and players. That's segregation??? Please... I really wish folks would stop commenting on "poor old HCASC" as though it NEEDS the help of other programs to justify itself. It doesn't... THE STUDENTS ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE! And those that want more, seek it at their leisure. What's the problem?<< The problem is that the effects of the mandatory segregation do linger. The fact that CBI chose, in 1999, to catch up with three decades of American society and stop outright banning HBCUs from participating in regular quizbowl means two things even after the lift of the ban: 1) They are the type of people who would institute such a ban, and thus highly ethically suspect. 2) The effect of years of outright lies and other propoganda about regular quizbowl lingers. Let's take another racial issue. We're all aware that the effects of slavery didn't magically dissapear in 1865; the generational impact of denied education et cetera is the major argument behind the slavery-reparations movement. Similarly, on a much smaller scale, the effects of years and years without exposure to regular quizbowl have damaged the institutional experience of HCASC teams and put them 10 years behind mainstream programs in certain competitive resources (packet archives, experience with the canon, et cetera) through no fault of the current players, but through every fault of CBI. You assert that there are not enough black players at mainstream circuit events. Yet you also yourself stated that you were TOTALLY UNAWARE OF the circuit while you were playing HCASC. So how the hell would you know anything about the racial makeup of the circuit? The obvious answer is that you don't have any firsthand information on this, and simply accepted a line from CBI about horrific racial oppression over in regular quizbowl. This brings up a multitude of new problems: 1) CBI, which likewise has no experience on the regular circuit, is making statements about it to a captive audience whom CBI had prohibited from finding out the truth on their own 2) These statements are of dubious factual accuracy and are extremely self-serving to CBI, and revolve around the inflammatory issue of racial discrimination 3) You are getting all your information from one of the parties in the conflict, then repeating it as fact Furthermore, you are committing a host of errors by assuming that the rosaparks posts are the entirety of the anti-HCASC argument. 1) Even if the segregation never occurred, we still wouldn't like HCASC or any other event played on CBI questions, which are terrible questions that do not reward knowledge and in fact intentionally punish it. Any sort of separate tournament set up by CBI in an attempt to further divide the circuit and make more money by foisting these crap questions on people is unnacceptable, whether it be a tournament just for HBCUs, just for Ivy League schools, just for undergraduates, whatever. 2) CBI's patronizing attitude towards non-majority culture of all kinds is evident in their questions. The 2005 NCT set is apparently wholly unaware that literature and history occurred in places other than the United States. The way they address female and African-American contributions to the US is through tokenism: lots of questions on "the first black guy to do this" and "the first woman to do that" which seem drawn out of a second-grade Black History Month curriculum, no questions on the higher accomplishments of those groups. I've heard lots of questions requiring real knowledge of Claude McKay's novels or the Denmark Vesey revolt in ACF and NAQT, none at CBI, just more "first black woman to climb Mount Aconcagua" type inanity. BLACK PLAYERS ON THE CIRCUIT HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS. Yes, they do exist, and they dislike CBI too! By the way, I was playing Princeton on the Andrew Young tossup at ICT, and they won a buzzer race to get the tossup. I didn't notice any "rosaparks" in the tournament stats, so maybe people who actually did attend the tournament know more about important black history topics than you give them credit for.
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