Fine then (Re: A Change of Subject)

"Have you even read the (deep and poignant)
lyrics to some of these songs?"

Deep and poignant
lyrics are a dime a dozen. Even Jewel's songs contain
them (Foolish Games, for example).

"All in all,
to be completely honest, I find your "critique"
disturbingly racist."

In response to this, I didn't say
that it wasn't real music, I just said that it's
demeaning, and when I said that street thugs listen to it, I
did not mention that around where I live, most of the
street thugs are white trash, not African-Americans, and
I stand pat on the issue that even
African-Americans shun rap. Take the words of a very successful
African-American in Chris Rock: "I like black people, but I hate
n------s."

"Furthermore, rap music is a means of expression developed by a
group of people who were oppressed and suppressed by
the dominant white culture for so long."

And
look what often happens now that they're not. People
that want to advance their positions are tagged
"white." Don't tell me it doesn't happen; I know people
that it has happened to.

"Would it really be
such a bad thing for all of us to look at what else is
out there, culturally, and not automatically dismiss
it because we can't identify with it
immediately?"

A comment before I answer: Even if you use that
argument, then why aren't there more gay and lesbian
questions? That's something I'm sure we can't identify with
immediately, but it almost never comes up.

My answer:
No, it wouldn't, but that's not why I'm dismissing
it. I went through a phase of listening to it earlier
in life and quickly realized it just wasn't me. I
should definitely be verbally assaulted for discovering
a moral truth about myself...

"I'm deeply
disturbed that you would dismiss an entire genre of music
as non-music because you don't happen to like
it."

People do that with sports and political candidates,
too. What difference?

A final comment: I
shouldn't have gotten this tongue-lashing for not liking
rap. If you look at who my friends are at home and
where I live I'd like to see you get up the nerve to
tell me that I'm still racist.

JAK

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