Re: The War Between The States II

News flashes/comments/thoughs
afurther:

17. One voter who filed a complain with the PBC Board
of Elections said he didn't realise that casting two
votes for President would make his ballot invalid. This
is a direct quote. 

>From Washington Times on
Friday:

 'Max Drier, a retired Palm Beach County resident,
said the confusing ballot led him to vote mistakenly
for Mr. Buchanan, which he then tried to correct by
punching the ballot again to cast a vote for Mr. Gore.

'"My original vote was for Buchanan, but I wanted to
make sure I voted for Gore. I didn't realize if I
punched in two votes that my ballot would be
invalidated," said Mr. Drier, who filed a formal protest with
Palm Beach County yesterday.'

When I was six, I
knew you could only vote for one candidate for
President. When I was 12, I realised that such ballots were
thrown out. 

18.
<a href=http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=ELECTION&STORYID=APIS786FCQO0 target=new>http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=ELECTION&STORYID=APIS786FCQO
0</a>

This is the link to the story of where 15K ballots
were thrown out in 1996. As turnout was higher this
year, more marginally competent voters could have come
out, pushing up the # of thrown out ballots this
year.
19. The hand recounts Gore requested just happen to
be in four heavily Democratic counties. Of course as
we all know hand recounts are less accurate than
machine recounts. They may however validate previously
invalidated ballots. 

<<Well, people from other
countries *are* laughing at us, but for reasons other than
the ones James Baker has in mind.>>

20.
Of course. But do Europeans really need an excuse to
laugh at Americans?

<<They are laughing
because the person with the most votes probably will not
be President.>>

21. Let's wait until
the 2M absentee ballots are counted before saying
that. 

22. Gore's lead is ~200K depending on who
you ask. California alone has 1M left to count as of
yesterday (Friday) and the LA Times article said there were
potentially more.

23. Why was this not a bad thing
when Gore was thought to be the beneficiary of this? I
do not recall seeing a flood of posts on this board
complaining about the Electoral College BEFORE the
election.

24. It (the popular loser winning the Electoral
college) is hardly a unique occurrence, happening twice
before in our history and nearly occurring a few other
times. Both candidates knew the
rules.

<<They are laughing because the next President will not
represent 52% of those who voted.>>

25. You
mean like Clinton did not represent 55% and 57% of the
people who voted?

<<They are laughing
because our system is so complicated, from the primaries
to the Electoral College.>>

26. Well,
it was simpler back in the day when Presidential
candidates were selected in the smoke-filled back rooms of
yore. A lot simpler. It was simpler when we had fewer
voters, because minorities, women, landless, etc., were
simply not allowed to vote. 

<<They were
even laughing before November 7, because America's
version of "free and fair elections" cost over 3 billion
dollars in campaign financing, and because our process
takes so damn long.>>

27. What do you
propose to replace it? America is THREE TIMES as big
population wise as any EU country. It is in fact nearly as
big economy-wise and population-wise as the ENITRE
EU. Elections are just going to cost more
here.

<<But they won't be laughing when their leaders have to
meet with a President who can't even speak his own
language well, let alone converse in foreign
affairs.>>

28. You mean as opposed to having the gentleman who
flunked out of law and divinity
schools?

--regards, shawn

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