Re: A history question for everyone

"16. He entered the Seven Weeks War on the side
of Austria but, on his defeat, signed an alliance
with Prussia. As king he invited the exiled Richard
Wagner to continue his musical work in Munich, during
which time Wagner completed his Ring Cycle.(*) His
uncle Prince Luitpold took power when a panel of
physicians recommended his removal, and this man known as
the Mad King drowned himself soon after. FTP, name
this King of Bavaria famous for his many castles like
Neuschwanstein, the grandson of Ludwig I and cousin of Ludwig
III.
 Answer: Ludwig II or Louis II

 (*) Where I
buzzed in, answering "Mad King Ludwig"."

So, the
situation seems prima facie that the question writer used
"Mad King" as an identifying clue in the question, and
thus did not include "Mad King Ludwig" as an
acceptable alternate answer. There seems to be two schools
of thought on this issue.

One school holds
that if you give an alternate answer that also appears
as a clue before that clue appears in a question,
your answer should be accepted. This school would
award you the points. Adherents of this school often
submit questions to tournaments that have caveats added
such as "accept _Mad King Ludwig_ if that answer is
given before the words 'Mad King' appear in the
question." The philosophy behind doing this seems to be that
a player should never be penalized on an interrupt
if the answer indicates clear and precise knowledge
of the question, but is in a form that later
information in the question would rule out.

I hold
with the second school of thought on this topic. A
toss-up properly constructed in "pyramidal style" is a
series of clues, each of which in succession narrows the
Universe of Possible Answers until one is precisely
pinpointed. While the pinpointing usually comes earlier in
the toss-up rather than later, as a practical matter
(and to the point of view of the player seeking the
answer) the pinpointing can occur anywhere in the
toss-up. Additional clues in the toss-up may indicate the
form the answer will take. A player who buzzes in
early in any circumstances assumes an element of risk:
that they have heard enough to correctly pinpoint the
answer. In this case, the toss-up eliminates "Mad King"
as a form of the answer by using it as a clue, and
furthermore it contains clues in the final words that, if
heard, pretty clearly indicate that this is going to be
Ludwig II. By buzzing early, you assumed the risk that
you had enough information; when prompted, it was
clear that you did not. You took a risk, and it did not
pay off. I would have ruled against you in this case,
an adherent of the other school would not
have.

When questions are going to eliminate a common
alternate form of an answer, I prefer to have the alternate
eliminated early in the question. But I don't think it is
inherently unfair for the elimination to occur later. Others
will disagree, I'm sure. :)

Now, how about
someone posting the "Christiana" question?

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