Re: A Very Important Question that I need answered...


Stephen, 

Thanks for your response.  I'm getting several e-mails concerning 
this issue, and so far, yours is the only one that believes that CC 
should count...  I would like to say that the Berry Tournaments that 
I competed in (1999 and 2000) might have been in the same format (20 
Tossups/Bonuses) that we play now, but the caliber of questions (and 
competition, for that matter) was completely a different universe.  

If you're going to use the "same format" criteria, then I played 
this format in 7th grade at our county tournament, but I hardly 
think that should count... 

Please don't think that I'm trying to be obstinate, I'm not at all.  
But I do have to disagree with you... I say that if Community 
College experience counts, then so should CBI.  I've been to CBI's 
RCT this year, and the competition (and even the format) was much 
more akin to what we do now than anything I did in Community College.

What I really would like is to hear from Charlie on this...  He's 
the one who needs to decide about Moon Pie, as well as most of our 
tournaments we will be going to next year.

Thanks,

-Lee   


--- In quizbowl_at_yahoogroups.com, Stephen Taylor 
<stephen_taylor_qb_at_y...> wrote:
> 
> Lee,
> First, let me make it clear that I have no jurisdiction in 
deciding the matter, as I do not direct any tournaments.  But if I 
did, and if the eligibility rule for the tournament in question was 
as you describe, my position would be that having played at the 
Berry tournament would, in fact, count.  The point isn't whether or 
not you've faced higher-level teams, nor is it the degree of 
difficulty of the questions per se, but whether or not you've played 
in this format at the collegiate level.  
> And some of those Alabama CCs are pretty strong--Bevill State to 
name one.
> Stephen Taylor
> Coach, Macon State College
>  "quizbowllee2 <scholarsbowl_at_h...>" <scholarsbowl_at_h...> wrote:
> 1) Most tournaments limit Division II eligibility to players in 
> their first 2 years of "Intercollegiate Competition" (such as 
> Charlie's post about Moon Pie).  However, it is also stated that 
CBI 
> experience does not count because it is so far-removed from the 
> ACF/NAQT level.  My question is: Does Community College experience 
> count?  I did play 2 years at Snead State CC in Alabama.  However, 
> we played only other Community College teams within our own state. 
> We only played out-of-state teams at a Berry Invitational and at a 
> CBI - sponsored event in Florida.  The questions used in our 
> Community College league were no where near the caliber used in 
the 
> 4-year tournaments that we have gone to this year.  
> 
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