Re: Tournament: Brandeis' Mark "The Junior Bird" Fidrych Sep. 25th (CUT-style)

--- In quizbowl_at_yahoogroups.com, "nicolas_walters" <Sywolf_at_a...> wrote:
> ... I hope other people will chime in with their thoughts on my post. I 
> really think having more CUT-style tournaments or undergrad only 
> tournaments is really going to help quiz bowl in the long run. While 
> grad student participation is inevitable and perhaps beneficial, I 
> still think and insist that this should be an activity primarily for 
> college students and run by college students...
While I (and many, many others) don't see what good that holding
college tournaments on high school questions that someone bought is
doing for the circuit, you can do as you like with the money your
school gives you, for better or for worse. However, I feel compelled
to remind you that graduate students are, in fact, college students.
While I don't know the position of your organization, I know that ours
(UIUC ABT) is meant to service the entire student populace
(conventionally defined) and that, therefore, we have no right to
exclude grad students from our meetings, etc. I really don't see
anything wrong with that precept.
I don't understand how someone from your region, of all places, would
be in a position to complain about grad domination or lack of
tournaments that you can attend. While justifiability has never been a
hallmark of the points in this seemingly eternal recurrence of
"debate," cursory analysis seems to reveal a lower bound of five
tournaments for which you are eligible in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic,
and it seems to me that, among major regions, yours is the one with
the lowest rate of active grad participation. Not, of course, that
that matters much when, in a year, one's team goes to exactly one
academic circuit event for which grads are eligible.

Anyway,
MaS

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