<<This is the kind of response that makes someone like Daniel uncomfortable with QB.>> Objective scientific facts do not change because someone is "uncomfortable" with them. If he's uncomfortable with the real world, that is 100% his problem. <<Creationists believe it's just as fair to say that evolution is akin to alchemy since, as paleontologist G.G. Simpson once wrote: "It is inherent in any definition of science that statements that cannot be checked by observation are not about anything...or at the very best, they are not science.">> 1) There are plenty of definitions of science that don't say that. 2) Evolution is observed constantly. "Evolution" means "change in allele frequencies over time." You can observe it yourself in any given population. 3) Specifically, even speciation is observed all the time. see <a href=http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html target=new>http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html</a> 4) While the specific case of man's descent from a common ancestor of the apes cannot be observed in the basic sense of actually seeing it as it happens, there is overwhelming evidence for it. <<Since science means "to know" and "systematized knowledge derived from observation, study, etc." It is based on observation and experimentation. Evolutionists don't "know" anything about man's origins. They guess, suppose, etc. but they don't "know.">> Yes they do. see <a href=http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html target=new>http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html</a> It's absolutely tragic to see such an anti-intellectual thread on this board in the first place. Creationism is religious faith, and as long as it stays in that domain, I won't pretend that argument can show it to be true or false, since that's not how religion operates. However, when "creationism's" proponents encroaches on the domain of science, those who wish to see civilization continue must make it quite clear that there is no evidence for creationism, it is a front for theocrats and the forces of ignorance, every last one of its leading spokesmen is a liar and a fraud intent on destroying the separation of church and state, and to believe in it as a SCIENTIFIC theory is to practice willful ignorance of knowledge and reason. --M.W.
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