Re: Science Questions

• From: TTUMC_Webmaster
• Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 05:44:43 -0700
• Message-ID: <000TCJHDR.000HVSEEC.12170551-quizbowl_at_...>

This is amusing to me. You would like to limit
speech on what you do not believe and dismiss it as
claptrap; when someone brings up an opposing viewpoint, you
defer to ad hominem attacks such as "anti-intellectual"
and "ignorant." This is intellectually lazy.

I
have read the entire set of www.talkorigins.org FAQs,
as well as this excellent list
(<a href=http://icarus.cc.uic.edu/~vuletic/cefec.html target=new>http://icarus.cc.uic.edu/~vuletic/cefec.html</a>) and they both make some compelling
arguments.

However, in cases in which they cannot explain something,
they make statements like the following:

"Even
in the earliest days of the Big Bang theory,
cosmologists recognized that one could not be sure whether
conservation of energy applied prior to the Planck time (the
first 1x10-43 seconds of the universe) for two reasons:
(1) the conditions prior to the Planck time were so
extreme that Big Bang theory itself, and indeed, all of
classical physics, breaks down in that time period; (2)
because of the small size of the universe prior to Planck
time, quantum mechanical effects would become relevant,
so in the absence of a fully developed theory of
quantum gravity (a fusion of quantum mechanics and
relativity) one could not know what happened in that time
period. Therefore, for the conventional Big Bang
theorists, all bets were off before Planck time."

In
other words, WE CANNOT KNOW certain things about the
origins of the universe because we have no means of
measuring or observing it, not to mention, these phenomena
were not observable or measurable by conventional
physics.

So, to make speculation about it is just
that--speculation. It's a bigger leap of faith to believe everything
just "happened", matter sprang from non-matter, life
from non-life, than it is to believe in some form of
Intelligent Design.

So, in effect hard-core evolution
is very much like a religion. It is faith-based.
However, unlike Christians who believe in religious
freedom, the evolutionist religion would like to limit any
speech that does not support it.

Jeremy