Re: QB and race

Most people in this group DON'T have to worry
about defending themselves on the race issue, and
shouldn't feel guilty. The fault with a lot of Qb-ers, and
I don't leave myself out of this at all, is not
that there's a level of prejudice out there (and
please remember that there's a difference -- albeit a
fine one -- between racism and prejudice) against
certain ethnic groups, but a general lack of certain
social skills. One of those is a (sometimes) naive lack
of courtesy on many people's parts. Some people
simply don't know when they're being offensive --
physically or otherwise. These people simply don't do well
around others, and you learn to live with it inside
quizbowl. For every polite Chris Romero or Charlie
Steinhice, there's a ________________. Sure, OU's squad can
be boorish, rude, and frighteningly offensive when
we've had a few too many, or Adam is complaining about
too many sports questions in Trash packets, but
that's nothing compared to those people who play these
matches and think that nailing 6+ toss-ups per round
makes their defecation less fragrant. Snobbishness is
always a facade for a lack of self-respect, and knowing
a lot of stuff doesn't equal the right to belittle
others. 
As for the post about the pointlessness of
trivia competition, face it -- quizbowl isn't
meaningless or pointless to a lot of us, it's an attempt to
be competitive in a field where we stand out:
intelligence, memory recall, and knowledge (and, yes, I'm not
sure the first one applies to me at all ... or the
second ... and the third...). If we were bigger,
stronger, and faster, we might've been football stars, but,
as is, we're smart, and we play quizbowl. I don't
think it's meaningless, or silly, unless all
competition for personal fulfillment is a bit silly, which
could be argued.
Sorry, lost the
thread...
Personally, Diarrheamadman lost me when he stated that he
could laugh at racist or homophobic jokes. An open mind
is one thing, but laughing at how certain people
offensively categorize other people is just bewildering. I
don't see how that post offends Chip and these types of
jokes don't. You say there's no problem because you
don't believe the offensive sterotypes? Well, then why
not change the group in question and see if the joke
is still funny? Believe yourself to be above racist
jokes and, therefore, can hear them and laugh without
continuing their offensive nature? Congrats, you're a
hypocrite, and enjoy your copy of Soul Man. Was I offended
by the original tourney past? No, but if I hadn't
known it was created via a computer program, I would've
thought the writers were aping Quentin Tarantino
dialogue. That's the difference between the first post and
the comment about racist/homophobic jokes: the post
wasn't trying to create a form of bond or solidarity by
pointing out incorrect stereotypes about certain groups,
and the jokes do. The "One to Grow On" cliche would
be that we all need to start working on being less
offensive to other people, but that should already be
obvious. What isn't is that a lot of people in this group
couldn't care less about offending other people, not
because they're prejudiced against other people, but
towards themselves. 
David Murphy, Univ. of
Oklahoma
(Who thinks everything would be solved if people would
simply start hanging out with other teams at tournaments
once in a while instead of avoiding contact at all
costs. And sometimes drinking beer and singing karaoke
in the process, although the latter part might drive
people away more than anything.)

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