I noticed that in chat.yahoo.com, users have the ability to create their own chatrooms. This suggests a far easier way to give the group chat room capabilities than mucking around with IRC. If the group description provided a chat link to http://chat.yahoo.com/?room=quizbowl, people clicking this link would join the room if other people were there or they would create the room if no one else was there. The earlier claim (in message 9220) that Y! Chat is no longer supported on Macs, is as far as I can tell, just wrong. http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/chat/chat-02.html says that chat is supported, but voice chat is not. Since no one ever used voice chat, I don't see how that makes a difference. Because Yahoo has always had chat rooms separate from the clubs/groups setup, this method should be unaffected by the recent merger. And really, the IRC channel #quizbowl has become rather unenjoyable due to persistent op abuse. The current topic on #quizbowl is "Frankel + midterm papers - sleep = tomorrow night + severe cirrhosis + beating my wife" and last night it was "TUG TUG TUG" Because any choice of an op will be controversial, I'd much rather use the familiar Yahoo setup. If someone on a Mac can check and see if this method will work, I think it's a better solution than using a system that forces us to choose ops. Dave
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