Re: Using google to weed out too-obscure answers

--- In quizbowl_at_y..., fbush555 <no_reply_at_y...> wrote:
> <500
> Answer:  Henry Martyn Robert (do not accept _Roberts_)

Knowing what to search for is important. Searching for "Henry Martyn 
Robert," quotations included gets 390 hits. Change the "y" to an "i" 
to account for mispellings and you get an additional 41 hits. Search 
for "Robert's Rules of Order," on the other hand, and you get about 
39,800 hits.

There are at least two flaws. One is that the knowledge put out on the 
web is skewed to the tastes and knowledge of whoever uses computers 
and the internet and who is more likely to actually make a webpage. 
Most notably, anything "geeky" or "computerish" probably has an 
inflated value.

The other is that quizbowl has its own set of knowledge. I'm not sure 
how a line about disliking poetry became the stock giveaway for 
Marianne Moore. Certain things are gettable because they come up. 
Whether we should ask about such things is debatable. But solely as a 
judge of gettability, google-checking will miss such things that are 
gettable because most websites aren't written by people who comprehend 
this "language-game" we call quizbowl.

Also, quizbowl allows us a platform to inform potentially like-minded 
people about cool things. I admit, I've gone overboard in the past. 
There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Since "great" 
questions tend to be harder than average (no one ever said their 
favorite novel was Moby Dick and that there needed to be better 
questions on it), they need a little "vanilla-flavored" questions to 
make things go down smoothly. But judicious use of questions on new 
and interesting things is okay.

On an internet-related tangent, it worries me a bit if people become 
too dependent on internet sources for writing questions. More 
specifically, I'm afraid that people latch on to specific websites and 
write all their questions in a specific area from one source. People 
complain about "straight out of Benet's questions." It would be 
equally annoying if, for example, half the philosophy questions on the 
circuit came out of the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 
(http://plato.stanford.edu/), to name one site which I suspect is 
popular among certain people. I tell you about it now only because I 
use it rarely if at all these days.

What you describe is a useful tool that will guide the novice and the 
unskilled question writer and prevent them from making mistakes. On 
the other hand, few laws are hard and fast and absolute. There are 
some writers and editors out there who I would trust to know 
exceptions to your rule. 

Anthony, whose academic "thing" was to look at how people acquired and 
used information for political purposes and who enjoys thinking about 
how people "access" knowledge

[See also the thread beginning with message 9006 with the subject 
"Hooey" for the Felix Krull/Tonio Kroger debate for discussion of the 
use of Google in judging difficulty.]

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