Muck & Moc Masters

Having just returned from my first UT-C tournament, I'm happy to 
report that it was just as enjoyable as everyone has made Charlie 
tournaments out to be.  The competition was good, and the pre- and 
post-tournament rituals were celebrations of the good that can 
happen when good people get together.  I recommend such a sojourn to 
anybody who's never taken a trip to Chattanooga.  Congratulations 
and thanks to Charlie and all the people behind this weekend's 
tournaments for a job well done.  Now if only there were a way to 
get from Albuquerque to Chattanooga that didn't involve Phoenix and 
Nashville...

Special thanks also go out to Doug, Eileen, Stephen, and Mark for 
making the free agent experience such a good one.  E-mail me if you 
want any of the team photos that were taken.

The following are examples of some scenarios that came up this 
weekend that could have made for some very ugly situations had 
strong leadership (and a little luck) not been in the right place at 
the right time.  Fyi, each of these decisions had the result of the 
game in the balance.

#1: On Saturday, a tossup was answered incredibly early, and the 
given answer of "A" was believed (by the person buzzing and several 
others) to be the only answer that fit the clues already given.  
However, "B" was listed as the answer on the page, and, in fact, the 
subsequent clues were inarguably compatible with B as the answer.  -
5 was given to the person who initially buzzed, and B was given by 
the other team, and was ruled correct.  Following the question, a 
protest was filed and resolved after the round.  The ruling was to 
throw the tossup out, rather than dealing with the (in)validity of 
the initial answer of A.  Given the circumstances, it may have been 
difficult to verify OR dismiss A or B as fitting those first clues 
anyways.

Me: This is non-ideal.  Either A or B is correct, and the question 
should be decided by the game-play, instead of pretending it didn't 
happen and moving on to another tossup.  I strongly advocate having 
some sort of post-game consultation (within reason) of relevant 
references to determine who gets the points, and proceed from 
there.  Logistically, it's very easy to use an extra tossup.  From 
the standpoint of a player, the game should be decided by facts, not 
ease of operations.

How we lucked out this weekend: The team who gave the initial 
correct answer (and got a -5) also got the extra tossup, thereby 
getting the win that (in my opinion) they deserved.

Plea: I hope that a reliable internet connection or reference 
materials (or at least someone near a phone who has them) are within 
a TD's reach at any and every future tournament.  The result of a 
hotly-contested game is worth a minor delay, IMO.

#2: In another match, a last name was given as an answer, which 
received a prompt from the moderator.  The first initial was 
correctly given, but this also received a prompt.  The rest of the 
first name was not given, the team received a -5, and play 
continued.  It was the belief of the person buzzing that the last-
name of the aforementioned answer _should have been_ enough 
information to get the points and receive a bonus question.  Indeed, 
nobody in the room could come up with another person in history who 
had _both_ the same first initial and last name.  As an aside, the 
only person anybody could think of who even shared the same last 
name is a figure in recent pop culture.  A protest was not (in the 
recollection of myself and others in the room) filed.  However, 
after the round it was put forth that, had a protest been filed, it 
would have been upheld, with the team receiving the points.

Me: For a decision to be made about how much information is needed 
_after the fact_ is a very bad move, in my opinion.  Proper writing 
and editing should have taken care of this before it ever happened.  
In my opinion, making a judgment call should be reserved for cases 
where there is no clear-cut solution.  Post-game changes to correct 
answers, no matter how (im)precise they are, should not ever be 
allowed.  It is the job of the editor to make sure that the 
precision of on-paper answers is appropriate, so as to prevent any 
utterances of "THAT'S all they wanted?" or "What do you 
mean 'more'?".  Players shouldn't be allowed to petition for MORE 
information to be given by the other team or for LESS to be given by 
their own; that choice has already been put forth in print.

How we lucked out: The team was not given the points, and the result 
of the game was not changed.  In my opinion, only the last name 
should have been required.  Since more was listed on the sheet, 
however, more was needed in this particular instance.

Plea: Take special care when writing and editing a tossup answer, 
which is still the most important parts of any tossu.  I know, "duh".

I honestly do hope any fears I have of these things happening again 
get alleviated before I trek 1000+ miles for a tournament.  Next 
time, we may not all be so lucky.  Let me emphasize, though, that 
all is peachy from this weekend.  In addition to all the fun, 
perhaps we can improve the quality of future tournaments from 
lessons learned at this one.

ZD

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