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==2020 onward==
 
==2020 onward==
* [[2025 ACF Nationals]] - After tossup 20 of the one-game final between [[Stanford]] and [[Chicago]], Chicago leads 265-255. A protest ldoged by Stanford on a bonus part about {{bu|leucine-rich repeat}}s is ultimately upheld, accepting  "leucine-rich regions" and tying the game. The resulting tiebreaker tossup on the {{bu|TVA}} is converted by [[Allan Lee]], winning Stanford the title.
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* [[2025 ACF Nationals]] - After tossup 20 of the one-game final between [[Stanford]] A and [[Chicago]] A, Chicago led 265-255. A protest lodged by Stanford on a bonus part about {{bu|leucine-rich repeat}}s was ultimately upheld, accepting  "leucine-rich regions" and tying the game. The resulting tiebreaker tossup on the {{bu|TVA}} was converted by [[Allan Lee]], winning Stanford the title.
 
** This protest was then litigated on the forums on the basis that there wasn't enough backing for the answer to be accepted outright (with only one citation located at the time of resolution) and a "should have been prompted" resolution would have made more sense.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=406199#p406199 Examining the Finals Protest Ruling] by [[Daedalus]] » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm</ref>
 
** This protest was then litigated on the forums on the basis that there wasn't enough backing for the answer to be accepted outright (with only one citation located at the time of resolution) and a "should have been prompted" resolution would have made more sense.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=406199#p406199 Examining the Finals Protest Ruling] by [[Daedalus]] » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm</ref>
 
* [[2025 ACF Nationals]] - Multiple teams were negged for giving the answer "New York Ballet" on the tossup on the {{bu|New York City Ballet}}. Some players protested and had their protests upheld but were not informed, leaving them unaware of their record.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28995 2025 ACF Nationals Logistics Discussion] by [[bkmcavoybickford]] » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:29 am</ref>
 
* [[2025 ACF Nationals]] - Multiple teams were negged for giving the answer "New York Ballet" on the tossup on the {{bu|New York City Ballet}}. Some players protested and had their protests upheld but were not informed, leaving them unaware of their record.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28995 2025 ACF Nationals Logistics Discussion] by [[bkmcavoybickford]] » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:29 am</ref>
 
** The facts of this protest were then extensively argued on both [[the Discord]] and the forums. Parties supporting the decision to accept "New York Ballet" argued that various reputable publications had used it while parties against it claimed that the answer was not in common usage and did not properly disambiguate from other ballets in the city - at least one ballet dancer was consulted during the discussion.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/275279348855209984/440685314600861727/1364406127864840254 (my sister, who danced at NYCB for years as a kid and remains reasonably in the know about the company and the ballet scene in NYC)]</ref> A major point of discussion was about the criteria needed for something to be in "common use" enough to be accepted on protest.
 
** The facts of this protest were then extensively argued on both [[the Discord]] and the forums. Parties supporting the decision to accept "New York Ballet" argued that various reputable publications had used it while parties against it claimed that the answer was not in common usage and did not properly disambiguate from other ballets in the city - at least one ballet dancer was consulted during the discussion.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/275279348855209984/440685314600861727/1364406127864840254 (my sister, who danced at NYCB for years as a kid and remains reasonably in the know about the company and the ballet scene in NYC)]</ref> A major point of discussion was about the criteria needed for something to be in "common use" enough to be accepted on protest.
  
* [[2024 NASAT]] - After answering a tossup on {{bu|COVID-19}}, Team Maryland's opponent<sup>[who?]</sup> [[hater protest|protest]]ed that their answer should not have been accepted because of the question's use of the pronoun "this pathogen". This protest was upheld and went unnoticed until a year later when it was discussed on the forums and defended by tournament director [[Fred Morlan]], who stated that the editor had chosen an incorrect answer to be their primary answerline and that COVID-19 was the disease and SARS-COV2 the pathogen.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28832 Ruling on answerline protests] by [[rachelez]] » Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:22 am</ref> In addition to going against precedent for questions on diseases (e.g. taking "bubonic plague" for "''Yersinia pestis''") it also contradicted common usage in both the medical community and the general public. After community outcry, Fred eventually issued an apology.
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* [[2024 NASAT]] - After Team Maryland answered a tossup on {{bu|COVID-19}} their opponent<sup>[who?]</sup> [[hater protest|protest]]ed that their answer should not have been accepted because of the question's use of the pronoun "this pathogen". This protest was upheld and went unnoticed until a year later when it was discussed on the forums and defended by tournament director [[Fred Morlan]], who stated that the editor had chosen an incorrect answer to be their primary answerline and that COVID-19 was the disease and SARS-COV2 the pathogen.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28832 Ruling on answerline protests] by [[rachelez]] » Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:22 am</ref> In addition to going against precedent for questions on diseases (e.g. taking "bubonic plague" for "''Yersinia pestis''") it also contradicted common usage in both the medical community and the general public. After community outcry, Fred eventually issued an apology.
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* [[2024 ACF Nationals]] - [[Stanford]] A protested that they [[should have been prompted]] on a tossup against [[Columbia]] A and it was upheld, meaning they were read a tossup only they can answer. However, they did not convert the tossup on {{bu|Cortona}} and, per ACF rule F.12C, the original score on the question stood and they lost 225-235.
  
* [[2024 ACF Nationals]] - [[Stanford]] protests that they [[should have been prompted]] on a tossup against [[Columbia]] and it is upheld, meaning they are read a tossup only they can answer. However, they do not convert the tossup on {{bu|Cortona}} and, per ACF rule F.12C, the original score on the question stands and they lose 225-235.
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* [[2023 NSC]] - "[[Wayzata|Plymouth Academic Team]]" played [[Detroit County Day]] and buzzed with "transcribing an operator" on a tossup on {{bu|transcription}}. They were informed that they won the protest but then told to return at the end of the day's rounds, where they learned the original ruling was overturned and they had lost the game 340-360.<ref>[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QO3uLE12MVPyUcsN8RgAjmPi8NOzlf0udxm6R2Fp2xg/edit?tab=t.0 2023 Plymouth academic team pace nsc statement]</ref> This left "Plymouth" tied at 8-2 with Detroit County Day and [[Richard Montgomery]] and the three teams played a two-game sequence for the second spot in the top superplayoffs. After losing the statistical tiebreaker, Detroit County Day beat Richard Montgomery then "Plymouth" on half-packets to break into the top 8 - they placed 7th while "Plymouth" finished 13th.
  
 
==2010-2019==
 
==2010-2019==
* [[2019 HSNCT]] - One-loss [[Stevenson]] plays one-loss [[Thomas Jefferson]] in the double-elimination playoffs. [[Luke Lamberti]] answers a question on {{bu|''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer_of_Fourteen_Years Little Dancer of Fourteen Years]''}} by Edgar Degas with an incomplete answer and protest. After winning the protest the final score is 360-340 in favor of Stevenson and Thomas Jefferson is eliminated at t-5th; Stevenson goes on to place 4th after losing to eventual runner-ups [[University Lab]].
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* [[2019 HSNCT]] - One-loss [[Stevenson]] A played one-loss [[Thomas Jefferson]] A in the double-elimination playoffs. [[Luke Lamberti]] answered a question on {{bu|''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Dancer_of_Fourteen_Years Little Dancer of Fourteen Years]''}} by Edgar Degas with an incomplete answer and protested. They won the protest, which made the final score 360-340 in favor of Stevenson; Thomas Jefferson was eliminated at t-5th and Stevenson went on to place 4th after losing to eventual runner-ups [[University Lab]].
  
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* [[2011 NSC]] - [[Bellarmine]] protested a question against [[Hunter]] which is upheld, winning Bellarmine the game. The protest was subsequently reviewed and reversed, which made Hunter 6-1 and tied for first with [[State College]].
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==2000-2009==
 
==2000-2009==
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* [[2006 ICT]] - Multiple teams answered "Herman" for a tossup on {{bu|Arminius}} and protested, with the protest being denied. This resulted in [[VCU]] taking a loss against [[Stanford]] that left them tied with [[Chicago]] A, forcing them to play a tiebreaker that they lost to leave them at 4th place. This was also one of several protests between [[Michigan]] and [[Vanderbilt]] that were resolved at half-time and then re-resolved after both teams left without properly communicating this to other teams.
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** A major contention was that the protest committee had done an inadequate job of obtaining information during the resolution. This event was ultimately dubbed "the [[Arminius scandal]]" and commemorated with the :arminius: emoticon on the forums.
  
 
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Revision as of 21:10, 12 May 2025

This is an (incomplete) list of noteworthy protests and protest resolutions. The entries in this page should be limited to those which occurred at nationals between top teams and/or received discussion on the forums.

2020 onward

  • 2025 ACF Nationals - After tossup 20 of the one-game final between Stanford A and Chicago A, Chicago led 265-255. A protest lodged by Stanford on a bonus part about leucine-rich repeats was ultimately upheld, accepting "leucine-rich regions" and tying the game. The resulting tiebreaker tossup on the TVA was converted by Allan Lee, winning Stanford the title.
    • This protest was then litigated on the forums on the basis that there wasn't enough backing for the answer to be accepted outright (with only one citation located at the time of resolution) and a "should have been prompted" resolution would have made more sense.[1]
  • 2025 ACF Nationals - Multiple teams were negged for giving the answer "New York Ballet" on the tossup on the New York City Ballet. Some players protested and had their protests upheld but were not informed, leaving them unaware of their record.[2]
    • The facts of this protest were then extensively argued on both the Discord and the forums. Parties supporting the decision to accept "New York Ballet" argued that various reputable publications had used it while parties against it claimed that the answer was not in common usage and did not properly disambiguate from other ballets in the city - at least one ballet dancer was consulted during the discussion.[3] A major point of discussion was about the criteria needed for something to be in "common use" enough to be accepted on protest.
  • 2024 NASAT - After Team Maryland answered a tossup on COVID-19 their opponent[who?] protested that their answer should not have been accepted because of the question's use of the pronoun "this pathogen". This protest was upheld and went unnoticed until a year later when it was discussed on the forums and defended by tournament director Fred Morlan, who stated that the editor had chosen an incorrect answer to be their primary answerline and that COVID-19 was the disease and SARS-COV2 the pathogen.[4] In addition to going against precedent for questions on diseases (e.g. taking "bubonic plague" for "Yersinia pestis") it also contradicted common usage in both the medical community and the general public. After community outcry, Fred eventually issued an apology.
  • 2024 ACF Nationals - Stanford A protested that they should have been prompted on a tossup against Columbia A and it was upheld, meaning they were read a tossup only they can answer. However, they did not convert the tossup on Cortona and, per ACF rule F.12C, the original score on the question stood and they lost 225-235.
  • 2023 NSC - "Plymouth Academic Team" played Detroit County Day and buzzed with "transcribing an operator" on a tossup on transcription. They were informed that they won the protest but then told to return at the end of the day's rounds, where they learned the original ruling was overturned and they had lost the game 340-360.[5] This left "Plymouth" tied at 8-2 with Detroit County Day and Richard Montgomery and the three teams played a two-game sequence for the second spot in the top superplayoffs. After losing the statistical tiebreaker, Detroit County Day beat Richard Montgomery then "Plymouth" on half-packets to break into the top 8 - they placed 7th while "Plymouth" finished 13th.

2010-2019

  • 2011 NSC - Bellarmine protested a question against Hunter which is upheld, winning Bellarmine the game. The protest was subsequently reviewed and reversed, which made Hunter 6-1 and tied for first with State College.

2000-2009

  • 2006 ICT - Multiple teams answered "Herman" for a tossup on Arminius and protested, with the protest being denied. This resulted in VCU taking a loss against Stanford that left them tied with Chicago A, forcing them to play a tiebreaker that they lost to leave them at 4th place. This was also one of several protests between Michigan and Vanderbilt that were resolved at half-time and then re-resolved after both teams left without properly communicating this to other teams.
    • A major contention was that the protest committee had done an inadequate job of obtaining information during the resolution. This event was ultimately dubbed "the Arminius scandal" and commemorated with the :arminius: emoticon on the forums.

References

  1. Jump up Examining the Finals Protest Ruling by Daedalus » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm
  2. Jump up 2025 ACF Nationals Logistics Discussion by bkmcavoybickford » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:29 am
  3. Jump up (my sister, who danced at NYCB for years as a kid and remains reasonably in the know about the company and the ballet scene in NYC)
  4. Jump up Ruling on answerline protests by rachelez » Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:22 am
  5. Jump up 2023 Plymouth academic team pace nsc statement