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'''Protobowl''' is a website [http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=13478 created by] [[Kevin Kwok]] which allows users to practice quizbowl questions, both alone and against other humans. Users may join a public or private room, and are provided with a random username consisting of a randomly generated adjective and noun, e.g. "exorbitant gull." Users may change their display names at any time, and can adjust the distribution or difficulty of questions that Protobowl displays. Protobowl is also available offline--which is probably a good thing, since it crashes with great frequency and gusto.
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'''Protobowl''' is a website created by [[Kevin Kwok]] and [[Ben Vest]] in 2012<ref>[http://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=13478 ProtoBowl] by [[kevink]] » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:03 pm</ref> which allows users to practice [[quizbowl]] questions, both alone and against other humans. Likely still the best-known question reader, use of the site has been largely discouraged since at least 2014 due to the tendency to encourage bad habits and pervasive issues with misconduct in its public rooms.
  
==As a cancer on quizbowl==
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In December of 2020, officials from [[NAQT]], [[PACE]], [[ACF]], and [[IAC]] issued [https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=24719&p=382196#p382196 a statement] on Protobowl, advising people not to use the site in light of Kevin Kwok's refusal to do anything about the misconduct issues with the site.
  
Protobowl is notorious as the source of multiple problems in the quizbowl community. Mainly, its operators flatly refuse to do anything about rampant use of racial slurs and other inappropriate chatting on the site, which undoubtedly [[civility|drives people away]] from quizbowl when they are sent to Protobowl upon asking how to get good. It is common to enter a Protobowl room and see every question being intentionally negged with offensive terms for various ethnic groups. When the site is not being trolled by racists, it is instead being monopolized by people who have memorized the 15 or so question sets in the database and make one-word buzzes based on identifying the question from the last time they saw it.
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==Info==
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Users may join a public or private room, and are provided with a random username consisting of a randomly generated adjective and noun, e.g. "exorbitant gull." Users may change their display names at any time, and can adjust the distribution or difficulty of questions that Protobowl displays. Protobowl is also available offline--which is probably a good thing, since it has historically crashed with great frequency and gusto.
  
For some reason, there is a clique of high school players who believes that questions which cannot be learned from the Protobowl database are inherently too hard or illegitimate.
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===Controversies===
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Though early complaints were mainly regarding technical issues, within the first few months it became very clear that public rooms like "lobby" were almost constantly bombarded with profanity and slurs.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=255447#p255447 Re: ProtoBowl] by [[Cheynem]] » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:40 pm</ref> Though there were attempts to institute countermeasures like word filters, in-game ban tribunals, the implementation of accounts, and the assignment of moderators with ban privileges, this remained an incredibly pervasive problem. The severity of the problem was such that the community pushed the developers to implement a nuclear option like mandatory real-name policies or entirely removing all public channels, but neither of these options were ever implemented and Protobowl remains largely unregulated. Mounting negative public sentiment against the development team and their increasingly nonsensical justifications for not making changes culminated in the original announcement thread being locked on December 18, 2013: one year, three months, and twenty days after Protobowl being announced.
  
Protobowl is operated by [[Kevin Kwok|a person]] who has possibly never played a quizbowl tournament, and only claims to have once been a non-starting member of a high school team that attends one tournament per year. As such, the site has no incentive to care about what is good for the quizbowl community. Repeated attempts to get the trolling and cheating under control have been either ignored or met with bizarre justifications for doing nothing, including a claim that forcing users to identify themselves by real name on a quizbowl simulator will lead to political persecution.
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Several noted that [[Annandale High School]], where both co-creators Kevin Kwok and Ben Vest attended, had never gone to a quiz bowl tournament.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=260742#p260742 Re: ProtoBowl] by [[vestben]] » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:39 pm</ref> Ben went further and explicitly stated that Protobowl was meant to be a learning exercise for working with their web stack.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=260768#p260768 Re: ProtoBowl] by [[vestben]] » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:58 pm</ref> This distance from the quiz bowl community has been cited as a reason for the site's reluctance to implement called-for changes.
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The relatively small set of questions in the database at various points in Protobowl's history means that it was very feasible for players to memorize a significant fraction of them. This is especially true for at the middle school difficulty, which has significantly fewer [[clear]] sets in general.
  
The best thing for quizbowl would be if the Protobowl server was burned to the ground immediately; failing that, we will just wait for the next time that the poorly coded site crashes, after which the non-quizbowl-involved person running it will hopefully not bother restoring it again. In the meantime, it is recommended that people stop referring new players to Protobowl when the endless "how do I get good?" threads on HSQB pop up.
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Shortly before the thread was locked, it was found that Protobowl would display abusive messages at anyone who answered a sufficient number of questions incorrectly in a row as part of its rate-limiting response.
  
== External Links ==
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== External links ==
[http://protobowl.com/hsquizbowl Protobowl]
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*[http://protobowl.com Protobowl]
  
[[Category:Quizbowl on the internets]]
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==See also==
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*[[Quizbowl software#Practice tools]]
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==References==
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Latest revision as of 15:11, 26 April 2021

Protobowl is a website created by Kevin Kwok and Ben Vest in 2012[1] which allows users to practice quizbowl questions, both alone and against other humans. Likely still the best-known question reader, use of the site has been largely discouraged since at least 2014 due to the tendency to encourage bad habits and pervasive issues with misconduct in its public rooms.

In December of 2020, officials from NAQT, PACE, ACF, and IAC issued a statement on Protobowl, advising people not to use the site in light of Kevin Kwok's refusal to do anything about the misconduct issues with the site.

Info

Users may join a public or private room, and are provided with a random username consisting of a randomly generated adjective and noun, e.g. "exorbitant gull." Users may change their display names at any time, and can adjust the distribution or difficulty of questions that Protobowl displays. Protobowl is also available offline--which is probably a good thing, since it has historically crashed with great frequency and gusto.

Controversies

Though early complaints were mainly regarding technical issues, within the first few months it became very clear that public rooms like "lobby" were almost constantly bombarded with profanity and slurs.[2] Though there were attempts to institute countermeasures like word filters, in-game ban tribunals, the implementation of accounts, and the assignment of moderators with ban privileges, this remained an incredibly pervasive problem. The severity of the problem was such that the community pushed the developers to implement a nuclear option like mandatory real-name policies or entirely removing all public channels, but neither of these options were ever implemented and Protobowl remains largely unregulated. Mounting negative public sentiment against the development team and their increasingly nonsensical justifications for not making changes culminated in the original announcement thread being locked on December 18, 2013: one year, three months, and twenty days after Protobowl being announced.

Several noted that Annandale High School, where both co-creators Kevin Kwok and Ben Vest attended, had never gone to a quiz bowl tournament.[3] Ben went further and explicitly stated that Protobowl was meant to be a learning exercise for working with their web stack.[4] This distance from the quiz bowl community has been cited as a reason for the site's reluctance to implement called-for changes.

The relatively small set of questions in the database at various points in Protobowl's history means that it was very feasible for players to memorize a significant fraction of them. This is especially true for at the middle school difficulty, which has significantly fewer clear sets in general.

Shortly before the thread was locked, it was found that Protobowl would display abusive messages at anyone who answered a sufficient number of questions incorrectly in a row as part of its rate-limiting response.

External links

See also

References

  1. ProtoBowl by kevink » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:03 pm
  2. Re: ProtoBowl by Cheynem » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:40 pm
  3. Re: ProtoBowl by vestben » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:39 pm
  4. Re: ProtoBowl by vestben » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:58 pm