Re: Does single elimination suck?

Zamm Said...

I take issue with the idea
that because the favorites lose, a system is
automatically bogus. 
(snip)

Rules, question
distributions, playoff schemes, and the like seem to be designed
with the idea that certain teams must win.

Zamm
is correct. RR and Cross-Bracket round robins are
designed for the teams which were best on RR to win.
Single Elim is designed so that those teams are less
likely to win. That is a fundamental design element. To
borrow from sports inaccurately, the NCAA system allows
a 7-21 George Mason squad to win the national
title. The College Football system does not allow a 3-8
Rice squad to win the National
Title


(Zamm)
Any packet which technically fulfills a distribution,
but in anyway deviates from preconcieved notions of
what a round should feel like is automatically
dismissed as bad.

(snip)
That is incorrect. If
the playoff packets deviate substantially from the RR
and are not consistent with each other, then there
is
a problem. Clearly, Michigan should have brought an
8 person first team, using the 14-0 undefeated A
for the RR, and then substituting the B team which
finished 4th in its bracket yet beat Maryland A for the
playoffs. The A team could then be reinserted for the
suceeding playoff rounds to adjust to the markedly
different content and nature of the rounds.

One of
the many objections to the format is this very
problem. The ET Chuck first round packet was radically
different in form, content, and question distribution and
difficulty from the round robin. It would be interesting to
see a diagram of that packet to see if it met the
official PB guidelines at all.

The choices made by
the tournament directors, both in assigning playof
structure and rounds clearly indicate an active effort to
make sure that the winners of the Round Robin were not
the winners of the Tournament. Why else SE? Why else
use a packet that does not follow the same
distribution as the RR? Why else allow a team to play a
playoff match on a round written by there coach. PB
officials put Case Western in a horrible position of
requiring themselves to defend their legitimacy because of
their win, even if the packet did not favor them over
their undefeated opponent. 

Were the playoffs
not SE, the effect would be minimized. Because it is
SE, the appearance of impropriety, regardless of
accuracy, is magnified.

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