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The term "'''stock clue'''" is a largely outdated term for [[clue]]s that lack academic importance and yet routinely occur in quizbowl questions.
The term "'''stock clues'''" originally referred to clues that lack academic importance and yet routinely occurred in quizbowl questions.
 
 
Most examples of stock clues are [[biographical clues]] (especially in [[science]] questions) or [[trivia]].
 
Most examples of stock clues are [[biographical clues]] (especially in [[science]] questions) or [[trivia]].
  
Stock clues are extinct in modern [[good quizbowl]] (as of the early 2010s) due to high standards for [[academic]] importance.
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Stock clues, as originally conceived, were considered extinct in "[[good quizbowl]]" by the early 2010s due to higher standards for [[academic]] importance.
Despite stock clues being a historical relic, the term is still used and has become an ambiguous anachronism.
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However, the term "stock clue" is still used in modern quizbowl (especially high school quizbowl) to describe clues that appear frequently in questions on a certain topic—often in a negative light. This contemporary usage is seen by some as an ambiguous anachronism.</onlyinclude>
  
 
==Etymology==
 
==Etymology==
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is one "that is always used and so is not really useful." See also [[wikipedia:stock character|stock character]].
 
is one "that is always used and so is not really useful." See also [[wikipedia:stock character|stock character]].
  
The chiefly British English (or [[wiktionary:Commonwealth English|Commonwealth English]]) phrase "'''[[wiktionary:chestnut|chestnut]]'''" or "old chestnut" may also refer to stock clues.
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The chiefly British English (or [[wiktionary:Commonwealth English|Commonwealth English]]) phrase "'''[[wiktionary:chestnut|chestnut]]'''" or "old chestnut" may also refer to stock clues and is commonly used in the [[trivia community]].
  
 
==History==
 
==History==
Stock clues proliferated in pre-modern good quizbowl when inexperienced question writers and editors who didn't know any better recycled clues from past questions.
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Stock clues proliferated in pre-modern "good quizbowl" when inexperienced question writers and editors who didn't know any better [[question recycling|recycled]] clues from past questions.
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Players often learned stock clues through [[osmosis]] or deliberate [[memorization]], but not [[real knowledge]].
  
Players often learned stock clues through [[osmosis]] or deliberate [[memorization]], but not [[real knowledge]].
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By the early 2010s, awareness of and conformance to the core values of "good quizbowl" grew to the point where traditional stock clues became obsolete.
  
==[[wikipedia:Semantic drift|Semantic drift]] and misuse==
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===[[wikipedia:Semantic drift|Semantic drift]] and misuse===
Once stock clues no longer existed, the signifier "stock clues" had no [[wiktionary:signified|signified]].
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Once traditional stock clues no longer existed, the term "stock clue" began to gain other meanings due to growing [[ignorance of quizbowl history]] and the definition of the English word "stock."
It latched onto other meanings as ignorance of quizbowl history and the definition of the English word "stock" grew.
 
  
Now, the term "stock clues" is often misused to mean any clue that a player remembers from previous questions, regardless of how important it is, how frequently it has appeared before, or where the clue is placed in the question.
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Now, the term "stock clue" is often used to mean any clue that a player remembers from previous questions—regardless of how important it is, how frequently it has appeared before, or where the clue is placed in the question.
  
 
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! proportionate (deserved)
 
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Important clues used in excess of their actual importance are not stock clues, because they fail the first criterion of being unimportant.
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Stock clues, as originally conceived, do not include [[important]] clues that used in excess of their actual importance, as those clues fail the first criterion of being unimportant. However, clues like these are often referred to as "stock" in contemporary usage.
  
Although semantic drift is part of the natural evolution of language, help communicate clearly by not saying "stock," a term that is now doubly no longer useful because:
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Although semantic drift is part of the natural evolution of language, one can communicate more clearly by not using the term "stock," which is no longer useful because:
1. "stock" in the original sense is likely misapplied because stock clues are extinct in modern quizbowl;
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1. "stock" in the original sense is likely misapplied because traditional stock clues are extinct in modern quizbowl;
2. it is ambiguous, so people won't know which sense is meant.
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2. the term is ambiguous, so people won't know which sense is meant.
Instead, try: common, stale, overused, misplaced, easy, frequently used, popular, often mined, well-trodden, reused, trendy.
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Better alternatives include: common, stale, overused, misplaced, easy, frequently used, popular, often mined, well-trodden, reused, trendy, canonical.
  
 
==Examples==
 
==Examples==
This is a list of stock clues that may have existed in pre-modern quizbowl.
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This is a list of some "old-style" stock clues that may have existed in pre-modern quizbowl.
 
 
===Literature===
 
* "Her childhood friend Truman Capote": Harper Lee (also, anything involving Dill being based on Capote).
 
* "Planned to attend Juilliard, but lost her tuition money on a New York subway train": Carson McCullers
 
* "wounded at the Battle of Lepanto": Miguel de Cervantes
 
* "refused the 1926 Pulitzer Prize": Sinclair Lewis
 
* "purchases ''Little Shirley Beans''": Holden Caulfield
 
  
===General History===
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*"wounded at the Battle of Lepanto": Miguel de Cervantes
*"tutored by Bairam Khan": Akbar the Great
 
*"exiled in Mongolia": Vyacheslav Molotov
 
*"cup-bearer to the king of Kish": Sargon the Great
 
*"wrote ''The Army of the Future''": Charles de Gaulle
 
*"accused of having a gold spoon in his mouth": Martin Van Buren
 
*"said 'Because it's 2015'": Justin Trudeau
 
 
 
===Science===
 
 
*"son of a sailmaker": Victor Grignard
 
*"son of a sailmaker": Victor Grignard
*"Ideal Percent Alcohol Content of Vodka": Dmitri Mendeleev
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*"researched the ideal percent alcohol content of vodka": Dmitri Mendeleev
 
*"apprenticed to a bookbinder": Michael Faraday
 
*"apprenticed to a bookbinder": Michael Faraday
*"Advocated high doses of Vitamin C": Linus Pauling
 
*"1% of the world's energy": Haber-Bosch Process
 
*"Offered presidency of Israel": Albert Einstein
 
 
===Fine Arts===
 
*"research on aldehydes": Aleksandr Borodin
 
*"Taught at an all girls school": Gustav Holst
 
*"Ira Gitler called his playing 'sheets of sound'": John Coltrane
 
 
===Religion/Mythology/Philosophy===
 
*"Originally studied mechanical engineering": Ludwig Wittgenstein
 
 
===Social Science===
 
 
*"written on a napkin": Laffer Curve
 
*"written on a napkin": Laffer Curve
 
*"worked in a machine shop": Otto Rank
 
*"worked in a machine shop": Otto Rank
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Perhaps they could be considered second-order stock clues themselves, having been invoked so often in questions or discussions about stock clues.<ref>https://aseemsdb.me/static/packet_archive/HS/2010_Ben_Cooper/Ben_Cooper_2010_Packet_12_%5BFinals_1%5D_COMPLETE.pdf#page=1</ref><ref>https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/search.php?keywords=bookbinder</ref>
  
 
==Non-examples==
 
==Non-examples==
 
*"begins with a clarinet ''glissando''": ''Rhapsody in Blue''
 
*"begins with a clarinet ''glissando''": ''Rhapsody in Blue''
 
*"thesis on Indo-European languages": Ferdinand de Saussure
 
*"thesis on Indo-European languages": Ferdinand de Saussure
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Though these clues are commonly used, they are not stock because they are legitimately significant aspects of their answerlines.
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==See also==
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*[[m stock m]]
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==References==
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[[Category:Quizbowl lingo]]
 
[[Category:Quizbowl lingo]]
 
[[Category:Bad quizbowl]]
 
[[Category:Bad quizbowl]]
 
[[Category:Original QBWiki Page]]
 
[[Category:Original QBWiki Page]]
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Latest revision as of 22:07, 31 July 2023

Not to be confused with the food-themed side event There Will Be Stock Clues.

The term "stock clue" is a largely outdated term for clues that lack academic importance and yet routinely occur in quizbowl questions. Most examples of stock clues are biographical clues (especially in science questions) or trivia.

Stock clues, as originally conceived, were considered extinct in "good quizbowl" by the early 2010s due to higher standards for academic importance. However, the term "stock clue" is still used in modern quizbowl (especially high school quizbowl) to describe clues that appear frequently in questions on a certain topic—often in a negative light. This contemporary usage is seen by some as an ambiguous anachronism.

Etymology

The English adjective "stock" means "routinely used" or "cliché." In particular, a stock answer or phrase is one "that is always used and so is not really useful." See also stock character.

The chiefly British English (or Commonwealth English) phrase "chestnut" or "old chestnut" may also refer to stock clues and is commonly used in the trivia community.

History

Stock clues proliferated in pre-modern "good quizbowl" when inexperienced question writers and editors who didn't know any better recycled clues from past questions. Players often learned stock clues through osmosis or deliberate memorization, but not real knowledge.

By the early 2010s, awareness of and conformance to the core values of "good quizbowl" grew to the point where traditional stock clues became obsolete.

Semantic drift and misuse

Once traditional stock clues no longer existed, the term "stock clue" began to gain other meanings due to growing ignorance of quizbowl history and the definition of the English word "stock."

Now, the term "stock clue" is often used to mean any clue that a player remembers from previous questions—regardless of how important it is, how frequently it has appeared before, or where the clue is placed in the question.

important (academic, relevant) not important (trivial)
proportionate (deserved) "important clue," "famous clue"
excessively frequent "stock clue" (modern) "stock clue" (traditional)

Stock clues, as originally conceived, do not include important clues that used in excess of their actual importance, as those clues fail the first criterion of being unimportant. However, clues like these are often referred to as "stock" in contemporary usage.

Although semantic drift is part of the natural evolution of language, one can communicate more clearly by not using the term "stock," which is no longer useful because: 1. "stock" in the original sense is likely misapplied because traditional stock clues are extinct in modern quizbowl; 2. the term is ambiguous, so people won't know which sense is meant. Better alternatives include: common, stale, overused, misplaced, easy, frequently used, popular, often mined, well-trodden, reused, trendy, canonical.

Examples

This is a list of some "old-style" stock clues that may have existed in pre-modern quizbowl.

  • "wounded at the Battle of Lepanto": Miguel de Cervantes
  • "son of a sailmaker": Victor Grignard
  • "researched the ideal percent alcohol content of vodka": Dmitri Mendeleev
  • "apprenticed to a bookbinder": Michael Faraday
  • "written on a napkin": Laffer Curve
  • "worked in a machine shop": Otto Rank

Perhaps they could be considered second-order stock clues themselves, having been invoked so often in questions or discussions about stock clues.[1][2]

Non-examples

  • "begins with a clarinet glissando": Rhapsody in Blue
  • "thesis on Indo-European languages": Ferdinand de Saussure

Though these clues are commonly used, they are not stock because they are legitimately significant aspects of their answerlines.

See also

References

  1. https://aseemsdb.me/static/packet_archive/HS/2010_Ben_Cooper/Ben_Cooper_2010_Packet_12_%5BFinals_1%5D_COMPLETE.pdf#page=1
  2. https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/search.php?keywords=bookbinder