Difference between revisions of "List of notable protests"

From QBWiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Line 20: Line 20:
  
 
* [[2016 HSNCT]] - During the finals game with [[Thomas Jefferson]], [[Hunter]] protested that their answer of "dehydration synthesis" was correct for a bonus on {{bu|condensation}} reactions.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=317524#p317524 Re: 2016 HSNCT discussion] by [[setht]] » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:37 am</ref> This was accepted and resulted in a tie - Hunter proceeded to convert all three tossups in the tiebreaker sequence to win 400-355.
 
* [[2016 HSNCT]] - During the finals game with [[Thomas Jefferson]], [[Hunter]] protested that their answer of "dehydration synthesis" was correct for a bonus on {{bu|condensation}} reactions.<ref>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=317524#p317524 Re: 2016 HSNCT discussion] by [[setht]] » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:37 am</ref> This was accepted and resulted in a tie - Hunter proceeded to convert all three tossups in the tiebreaker sequence to win 400-355.
 +
 +
* [[2015 George Oppen]] - The Maryland site has a contentious protest over the "Plumbers" question, leading to a thread in which the vibes-based theory of protest resolution (answers which are objectively incorrect for every single clue in the question should be accepted if they are in my notebook on the same page as the right answer, I believe they are morally responsible for the answer's historical existence, or similar) is advanced by [[Marshall Steinbaum]].  Steinbaum is temporarily banned from the forums for asserting during the discussion that people who disagree with this protest resolution method are literally Richard Nixon, but arguably wins the debate over protest resolution in the long run.
 +
 +
* [[2013 ACF Nationals]] features flipouts over both the Sextus Empiricus and Rhode Island protests, sparking discussions about protest procedure, including the first arguments against the notion that "editors of questions must be consulted on protests."
  
 
* [[2011 NSC]] - [[Bellarmine]] protested a question against [[Hunter]] which is upheld, winning Bellarmine the game. The protest was subsequently reviewed and reversed, which made Hunter 6-1 and tied for first with [[State College]].  
 
* [[2011 NSC]] - [[Bellarmine]] protested a question against [[Hunter]] which is upheld, winning Bellarmine the game. The protest was subsequently reviewed and reversed, which made Hunter 6-1 and tied for first with [[State College]].  

Revision as of 01:08, 13 May 2025

This is an (incomplete) list of noteworthy protests and protest resolutions. The entries in this page should be limited to those which occurred at nationals between top teams and/or received discussion on the forums.

2020 onward

  • 2025 ACF Nationals - After tossup 20 of the one-game final between Stanford A and Chicago A, Chicago led 265-255. A protest lodged by Stanford on a bonus part about leucine-rich repeats was ultimately upheld, accepting "leucine-rich regions" and tying the game. The resulting tiebreaker tossup on the TVA was converted by Allan Lee, winning Stanford the title.
    • This protest was then litigated on the forums on the basis that there wasn't enough backing for the answer to be accepted outright (with only one citation located at the time of resolution) and a "should have been prompted" resolution would have made more sense.[1]
  • 2025 ACF Nationals - Multiple teams were negged for giving the answer "New York Ballet" on the tossup on the New York City Ballet. Some players protested and had their protests upheld but were not informed, leaving them unaware of their record.[2]
    • The facts of this protest were then extensively argued on both the Discord and the forums. Parties supporting the decision to accept "New York Ballet" argued that various reputable publications had used it while parties against it claimed that the answer was not in common usage and did not properly disambiguate from other ballets in the city - at least one ballet dancer was consulted during the discussion.[3] A major point of discussion was about the criteria needed for something to be in "common use" enough to be accepted on protest.
  • 2024 NASAT - After Team Maryland answered a tossup on COVID-19 their opponent[who?] protested that their answer should not have been accepted because of the question's use of the pronoun "this pathogen". This protest was upheld and went unnoticed until a year later when it was discussed on the forums and defended by tournament director Fred Morlan, who stated that the editor had chosen an incorrect answer to be their primary answerline and that COVID-19 was the disease and SARS-COV2 the pathogen.[4] In addition to going against precedent for questions on diseases (e.g. taking "bubonic plague" for "Yersinia pestis") it also contradicted common usage in both the medical community and the general public. After community outcry, Fred eventually issued an apology.
  • 2024 ACF Nationals - Stanford A protested that they should have been prompted on a tossup against Columbia A and it was upheld, meaning they were read a tossup only they can answer. However, they did not convert the tossup on Cortona and, per ACF rule F.12C, the original score on the question stood and they lost 225-235.
  • 2023 NSC - "Plymouth Academic Team" played Detroit County Day and buzzed with "transcribing an operator" on a tossup on transcription. They were informed that they won the protest but then told to return at the end of the day's rounds, where they learned the original ruling was overturned and they had lost the game 340-360.[5] This left "Plymouth" tied at 8-2 with Detroit County Day and Richard Montgomery and the three teams played a two-game sequence for the second spot in the top superplayoffs. After losing the statistical tiebreaker, Detroit County Day beat Richard Montgomery then "Plymouth" on half-packets to break into the top 8 - they placed 7th while "Plymouth" finished 13th. Note also that the entire reason for the extremely laborious and time-consuming protest procedure at PACE NSC is to prevent this exact situation from happening, in the wake of the protest issue at the 2011 NSC. No explanation for how it managed to take place anyway in 2023 was ever provided.
  • 2022 ACF Nationals - A team answered a tossup on DNA strands with "chains" and then protested - it was accepted but in an unorthodox interpretation of ACF rule H.11 the resolution involved a replacement tossup being read to both teams.

2010-2019

  • 2017 NSC - As Hunter was defeated by an Ed W. Clark team consisting of a freshman Eshaan Vakil playing solo, they lodged a number of spurious protests; one of these was that an answer was incorrect because Cyprus was not a country.
  • 2016 HSNCT - During the finals game with Thomas Jefferson, Hunter protested that their answer of "dehydration synthesis" was correct for a bonus on condensation reactions.[6] This was accepted and resulted in a tie - Hunter proceeded to convert all three tossups in the tiebreaker sequence to win 400-355.
  • 2015 George Oppen - The Maryland site has a contentious protest over the "Plumbers" question, leading to a thread in which the vibes-based theory of protest resolution (answers which are objectively incorrect for every single clue in the question should be accepted if they are in my notebook on the same page as the right answer, I believe they are morally responsible for the answer's historical existence, or similar) is advanced by Marshall Steinbaum. Steinbaum is temporarily banned from the forums for asserting during the discussion that people who disagree with this protest resolution method are literally Richard Nixon, but arguably wins the debate over protest resolution in the long run.
  • 2013 ACF Nationals features flipouts over both the Sextus Empiricus and Rhode Island protests, sparking discussions about protest procedure, including the first arguments against the notion that "editors of questions must be consulted on protests."
  • 2011 NSC - Bellarmine protested a question against Hunter which is upheld, winning Bellarmine the game. The protest was subsequently reviewed and reversed, which made Hunter 6-1 and tied for first with State College.
  • 2010 ACF Nationals - During the finals game with Stanford, Rob Carson of Minnesota buzzed with "B trees" on a tossup on self-balanced binary search trees and followed a series of prompts that culminated in them saying the word "balanced". Stanford protested that the initial answer of "B tree" should not have been prompted and won, ultimately securing them the victory.[7]

2000-2009

  • 2009 HSNCT - The deciding game of the finals turned on a protest where a team answered "flouride" for a tossup on "flourine" that began "this element." While ultimately, the correct decision was made (denying the protest, as flouride is not an element) it was not provided until several minutes after the end of the game. The anticlimactic resolution of an NAQT staffer walking onto the stage to announce who had won the national championship fifteen minutes earlier sparked a "storming" of the stage by the parent and grandparent entourage of the losing team. This and the above-described protest at 2010 ACF Nationals sparked a best practice recommendation of announcing protest resolutions in "stage" games as soon as they are available, rather than at the end of the game. This tournament also featured a minutely-discussed protest on the difference between "brahma" and "brahman" and an incident of a player changing his answer when asked to repeat himself by a moderator that was captured on podcast audio.
  • 2006 ICT - Multiple teams answered "Herman" for a tossup on Arminius and protested, with the protest being denied. This resulted in VCU taking a loss against Stanford that left them tied with Chicago A, forcing them to play a tiebreaker that they lost to leave them at 4th place. This was also one of several protests between Michigan and Vanderbilt that were resolved at half-time and then re-resolved after both teams left without properly communicating this to other teams.
    • A major contention was that the protest committee had done an inadequate job of obtaining information during the resolution. This event was ultimately dubbed "the Arminius scandal" and commemorated with the :arminius: emoticon on the forums.
  • 2004 NAC - The NAC final is decided on a protest of a math calculation question which had an objectively wrong answer on the paper. The protest, lodged after the end of the game when one team was already celebrating their apparent victory, is resolved correctly, though no explanation of how such a fundamental error made it into the finals of a national championship tournament is offered. The main recap of the game in the tournament writeup offered by QU directly conflicts with their separately posted explanation of how the protest was lodged and resolved. The captain of the St. Thomas team later posted that he "won by being a complete dickhead to the other team."
  • 2003 NAC - The "Lake Maracaibo Protest"
  • 2000 NAC - The "Bushing Protest"

References

  1. Jump up Examining the Finals Protest Ruling by Daedalus » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm
  2. Jump up 2025 ACF Nationals Logistics Discussion by bkmcavoybickford » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:29 am
  3. Jump up (my sister, who danced at NYCB for years as a kid and remains reasonably in the know about the company and the ballet scene in NYC)
  4. Jump up Ruling on answerline protests by rachelez » Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:22 am
  5. Jump up 2023 Plymouth academic team pace nsc statement
  6. Jump up Re: 2016 HSNCT discussion by setht » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:37 am
  7. Jump up The Self-Balancing Binary Search Tree Protest by Mike Bentley » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:26 am