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The final product was thought to have overshot its intended difficulty and its unfortunate editing situation meant that it was much rougher around the edges than previous iterations of the set.
 
The final product was thought to have overshot its intended difficulty and its unfortunate editing situation meant that it was much rougher around the edges than previous iterations of the set.
  
[[Justine French]] made several prominent criticisms in the discussion forum. While others joined them in commenting on overall question quality, French more controversially advocated "against putting hard clues in the easy part, since for players that do not know very many clues it is disheartening to have one of the few hard clues they can get be rendered useless by some (often tangentially related) easy clue."<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=352325#p352325]</sup> They also made the claims that [[Advanced Stats]] was a) "a significant burden on hosts" (and in fact would "<nowiki>[force]</nowiki> hosts to recruit almost double the number of staffers"<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353437#p353437]</sup>), b) that they "only exist so that elite players can flex the first buzzes they got because they remembered a clue from Chicago Open four years ago", and c) are "actively harmful to community" unless editors use them to actively fix questions.<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353399#p353399]</sup>
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[[Justine French]] made several prominent criticisms in the general discussion forum. While others joined them in commenting on overall question quality, French more controversially advocated "against putting hard clues in the easy part, since for players that do not know very many clues it is disheartening to have one of the few hard clues they can get be rendered useless by some (often tangentially related) easy clue."<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=352325#p352325]</sup> They also made the claims that [[Advanced Stats]] was a) "a significant burden on hosts" (and in fact would "<nowiki>[force]</nowiki> hosts to recruit almost double the number of staffers"<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353437#p353437]</sup>), b) that they "only exist so that elite players can flex the first buzzes they got because they remembered a clue from Chicago Open four years ago", and c) are "actively harmful to community" unless editors use them to actively fix questions.<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353399#p353399]</sup>
  
 
French's arguments were criticized as hyperbolic, with Billy Busse comparing the post to "throwing a temper tantrum at McDonalds because they put pickles on your burger after you asked for no pickles",<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353414#p353414]</sup> and many of their individual claims were disputed by later posters:
 
French's arguments were criticized as hyperbolic, with Billy Busse comparing the post to "throwing a temper tantrum at McDonalds because they put pickles on your burger after you asked for no pickles",<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353414#p353414]</sup> and many of their individual claims were disputed by later posters:
 
*the level of competency required to operate Advanced Stats is only marginally above that required to use electronic scoresheets, and thus scorekeepers (while preferred) would not be necessary<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353439#p353439]</sup> and any region (including SoCal) could find people with this level of competency.<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353464#p353464]</sup>
 
*the level of competency required to operate Advanced Stats is only marginally above that required to use electronic scoresheets, and thus scorekeepers (while preferred) would not be necessary<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353439#p353439]</sup> and any region (including SoCal) could find people with this level of competency.<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353464#p353464]</sup>
 
*Advanced Stats play an important role in tournaments that do not require changes from editors (e.g. [[ACF Regionals]]<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353440#p353440]</sup>) and were in fact used to edit EFT between mirrors.<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353414#p353414]</sup>
 
*Advanced Stats play an important role in tournaments that do not require changes from editors (e.g. [[ACF Regionals]]<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353440#p353440]</sup>) and were in fact used to edit EFT between mirrors.<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353414#p353414]</sup>
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The set also featured Andrew Wang's memorable tossup on "carbon and carbon", which [[Graham Reid]] described as "pathological".<sup>[https://hsquizbowl.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=350010#p350010]</sup> The question would be changed to ask for "these bonds" in later mirrors, but mere existence of this question would inspire players to neg future tossups with the [[pronoun]] "these two elements" with this answer.
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'''EFT Round 5 wrote:'''
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17. A bond between these two elements is reversibly formed and broken in a Wanzlick equilibrium. Some schemes for forming bonds between these two elements use catalytic cycles consisting of oxidative addition, transmetalation, and reductive elimination. A bond forms between these two elements in the first step of a reaction that has a four-membered oxaphosphetane ring intermediate. A bond between these two elements forms in palladium-catalyzed (*) coupling reactions. Organometallic reagents are often used to produce bonds between these two elements by giving one of them an atypical nucleophilic character. Bonds between these two elements are simply drawn as lines with no labels in skeletal structures of molecules. For 10 points, the backbone of organic chemistry consists of bonds between what two elements, which both have an atomic mass of 12?
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ANSWER: <u>'''carbon'''</u> AND <u>'''carbon'''</u> [or <u>'''C'''</u> AND <u>'''C'''</u>; or <u>'''two carbons'''</u>; accept <u>'''carbon–carbon bonds'''</u>]
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Revision as of 22:38, 7 April 2021

The Early Fall Tournament (EFT) is a name given to two distinct series of easier-than-regular quizbowl tournaments. The first series, written largely by the Brown club, ran five times between 2006 and 2010. The name was revived by Will Alston in 2016 for a tournament with a similar purpose.

Revival

The EFT name was successfully revived in the fall of 2016 by Will Alston, who went on to edit or be otherwise involved in the next four iterations. After its return, EFT would routinely have the largest fields and most mirrors of any collegiate tournament short of those run by ACF and NAQT.

2019

The 2019 iteration.

2018

The 2018 iteration was originally intended to be head edited by Joey Goldman alongside editors Alex Damisch, Ewan MacAulay, Dylan Minarik, Tejas Raje, Ramapriya Rangaraju, and Ryan Rosenberg. However, the logistics of the tournament fell into disarray and original editors Tejas, Alex, Dylan, and Ryan were forced to recruit additional editors Billy Busse, Ike Jose, Eric Mukherjee, Will Nediger, Jacob Reed, and Kenji Shimizu in the final weeks of its production. Jordan Brownstein, Rob Carson, Auroni Gupta, Andrew Hart, Kady Hsu, Ryan Humphrey, Young Fenimore Lee, Benji Nguyen, Andrew Wang, and Jason Zhou were credited as writers; it is unclear at what point they joined the project. Joey and Ewan were unable to complete their roles as head editor and science editor respectively and were ultimately credited as writers; the set's subtitle was made I guess Brexit really does mean Brexit as a result. Original editor Ramapriya did not appear in the final credits.

Rob Carson was originally slated to just provide oversight alongside Will Alston but stepped up to write. Alex also served as logistics czar.

Discussion

The final product was thought to have overshot its intended difficulty and its unfortunate editing situation meant that it was much rougher around the edges than previous iterations of the set.

Justine French made several prominent criticisms in the general discussion forum. While others joined them in commenting on overall question quality, French more controversially advocated "against putting hard clues in the easy part, since for players that do not know very many clues it is disheartening to have one of the few hard clues they can get be rendered useless by some (often tangentially related) easy clue."[1] They also made the claims that Advanced Stats was a) "a significant burden on hosts" (and in fact would "[force] hosts to recruit almost double the number of staffers"[2]), b) that they "only exist so that elite players can flex the first buzzes they got because they remembered a clue from Chicago Open four years ago", and c) are "actively harmful to community" unless editors use them to actively fix questions.[3]

French's arguments were criticized as hyperbolic, with Billy Busse comparing the post to "throwing a temper tantrum at McDonalds because they put pickles on your burger after you asked for no pickles",[4] and many of their individual claims were disputed by later posters:

  • the level of competency required to operate Advanced Stats is only marginally above that required to use electronic scoresheets, and thus scorekeepers (while preferred) would not be necessary[5] and any region (including SoCal) could find people with this level of competency.[6]
  • Advanced Stats play an important role in tournaments that do not require changes from editors (e.g. ACF Regionals[7]) and were in fact used to edit EFT between mirrors.[8]

The set also featured Andrew Wang's memorable tossup on "carbon and carbon", which Graham Reid described as "pathological".[9] The question would be changed to ask for "these bonds" in later mirrors, but mere existence of this question would inspire players to neg future tossups with the pronoun "these two elements" with this answer.

EFT Round 5 wrote:
17. A bond between these two elements is reversibly formed and broken in a Wanzlick equilibrium. Some schemes for forming bonds between these two elements use catalytic cycles consisting of oxidative addition, transmetalation, and reductive elimination. A bond forms between these two elements in the first step of a reaction that has a four-membered oxaphosphetane ring intermediate. A bond between these two elements forms in palladium-catalyzed (*) coupling reactions. Organometallic reagents are often used to produce bonds between these two elements by giving one of them an atypical nucleophilic character. Bonds between these two elements are simply drawn as lines with no labels in skeletal structures of molecules. For 10 points, the backbone of organic chemistry consists of bonds between what two elements, which both have an atomic mass of 12?
ANSWER: carbon AND carbon [or C AND C; or two carbons; accept carbon–carbon bonds]
<AW, Chemistry>


Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
Discord the editing team 9/22/2018 Stats Packets
SoCal UCLA 12/1/2018 Stats
NorCal Stanford 11/10/2018 Stats
Virginia Tech Virginia Tech 11/10/2018 Stats
SoCal UCSD 10/27/2018 cancelled
UK (closed) Oxford 10/20/2018 Prelims
Combined
Boise State Boise State 10/13/2018 BYU Oregon Stats
Georgia Tech Georgia Tech 10/13/2018 Prelims
Overall
UK (open) Oxford 10/13/2018 Stats
Yale Yale 10/13/2018 Amherst A Harvard B Morning
Complete
UCF University of Central Florida 10/13/2018 Prelims
Combined
Canada Carleton University 10/13/2018 Toronto J Toronto B Prelims
All Games
Minnesota Minnesota 10/6/2018 "Drangonball Z" (sic) Minnesota D Stats
WUSTL WUSTL 10/6/2018 prelims
combined
Michigan Michigan 9/29/2018 OSU A MSU A Prelims
Combined
Maryland Maryland 9/29/2018 Johns Hopkins A Maryland A Prelims
Combined

2017

The 2017 iteration was again edited by Will Alston and Richard Yu, with James Lasker joining them. Other writers included Alex Fregeau, Vasa Clarke, Eric Xu, and Jack Mehr.

It followed in the steps of TTIAC in including a "thought" distribution.

Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
Skype the editing team 12/26/2017 Stats Packets
Michigan Michigan 10/21/2017 Prelims
Combined
UK 10/21/2017 Stats (incomplete)
Northern California Stanford 10/15/2017 Stats
Louisville Louisville 10/14/2017 Prelims
Combined
Southern California UCSD 10/14/2017 Stats
Canada University of Toronto 10/14/2017 Stats
Virginia Virginia 10/14/2017 Prelims
Overall
WKU WKU 10/14/2017 (cancelled)
Georgia Tech Georgia Tech 10/14/2017 Stats
Minnesota University of Minnesota 10/14/2017 Stats
Boise State Boise State 10/14/2017 Oregon Colorado Stats
WUSTL WUSTL 10/7/2017 Prelims
Combined
Yale Yale 9/30/2017 Prelims
Combined
New College of Florida New College of Florida 9/30/2017 Stats
Second Skype the editing team 12/26/2017 Stats

2016

The 2016 iteration of EFT was edited by Will Alston, Richard Yu, and Andrew Wang, with writing contributions from Eddie Kim, Jason Cheng, Parikshit Chauhan, Jason Zhou, and Ryan Humphrey. Auroni Gupta assisted with tournament production.

This tournament was the first to explicitly include a playtest mirror by holding an open Skype mirror of the tournament a week before any closed mirrors.

Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
Skype the editing team 9/17/2016 Stats Packets
Northeast New York University 10/1/2016 Prelims
Combined
Mid-Atlantic University of Maryland 10/8/2016 Prelims
Combined
Southeast Duke University 10/8/2016 Prelims
Combined
Florida University of Florida 10/1/2016 Stats
Kentucky Western Kentucky University 10/15/2016 Stats
Texas Texas A&M 10/29/2016 Stats
North University of Minnesota 9/24/2016 Stats
Upper Midwest University of Chicago 10/22/2016 Prelims
Complete
Lower Midwest Washington University in St. Louis 10/1/2016 Stats
Great Lakes Youngstown State University 10/8/2016 Prelims
Playoffs
Northern California Stanford University 10/15/2016 Prelims
Combined
Southwest University of California, San Diego 10/8/2016 Prelims
Combined
Canada University of Ottawa 10/15/2016 Stats
UK Oxford 11/26/2016 Stats

Original Brown tournament

2010

EFT 5: The Prince of Aquitaine whose Tournament is Destroyed was a collaboration between Brown, Eric Mukherjee, and Illinois, headed by Ike Jose. Mirrors occurred at Brown, Illinois, VCU, Georgia Tech, and Toronto, with the main site taking place on October 2, 2010.

This incarnation of EFT received more criticism than previous years, with common complaints being the lack of grammar/copy-editing in many questions, absurd difficulty outliers, and an unclear baseline difficulty.

Set Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
EFT 5 New England
(main site)
Brown October 2, 2010 Harvard A Yale A Prelims, Playoffs Packets
Midwest Illinois October 2, 2010 Minnesota A Minnesota B Stats
California Claremont October 3, 2010 Irvine UCSD A Prelims, Playoffs
Mid-Atlantic VCU October 3, 2010 Maryland A Carnegie Mellon Stats
Minnesota Minnesota October 16, 2010 Gautam Kandlikar St. Thomas A Stats
Southeast Georgia Tech October 23, 2010 South Carolina A Chipola & Georgia (tie) Prelims, Playoffs
Canada Toronto October 31, 2010 Western Ontario Toronto A Stats

Broken stats link

2009

EFT 4: Cattle-Related Vocabulary took place on October 3 and 4, 2009 at Brown, Virginia, Illinois, Texas, UCLA, Millsaps, Toronto, Gonzaga, and Macalester. Substantial portions of the set were written by Jerry Vinokurov, Guy Tabachnick, Eric Mukherjee, Aaron Rosenberg, Daniel Klein, and Ian Eppler, with contributions from Seth Teitler, Ike Jose, Trygve Meade, and Hannah Kirsch.

The tournament was mostly well-received, with most of the complaints centered on uneven bonus difficulty and mediocre copy editing. The tournament elicited discussion of the nature of stock clues after Andy Watkins criticized the use of the Reptile Fund as an early clue for Bismarck. A discussion of the trash distribution in academic tournaments also ensued.

Set Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
EFT 4 New England
(main site)
Brown October 3, 2009 Harvard B Harvard A Prelims, Playoffs Packets
Canada Toronto October 3, 2009 Toronto A Michigan A Prelims, Playoffs
Mid-Atlantic Virginia October 3, 2009 Maggie Walker State College Stats
Midwest Illinois October 3, 2009 Chicago D Chicago B Stats
Minnesota Macalester October 3, 2009 Minnesota Red Carleton Stats
Northwest Gonzaga October 3, 2009 Washington A Washington B Stats
Southeast South Carolina October 3, 2009 Clemson Southside Stats
Texas UT-Austin October 3, 2009 Rice LASA A Stats
California UCLA October 4, 2009 UCSD Steve Katz Stats
South Millsaps October 4, 2009 Alabama A? Alabama B? Stats

Broken stats link

2008

EFT 3: Trapping Bees in a Dyson Sphere ran on October 4 and 11, 2008 at various sites around the country, including Brown, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, UCLA, FSU and Illinois, with many sites seeing record attendance (the Brown site had to cap registration at 24 teams due to staff shortages). The set was written in equal shares by Jerry Vinokurov, Dennis Jang, Eric Mukherjee, and Aaron Rosenberg, with contributions from Jonathan Magin, Evan Nagler, Lisa Qing, and Eric Johnson, and as tradition dictates, was assembled at 7AM on the day of the tournament.

The tournament was well-received overall, with the exception of a tossup on peer-to-peer networks and an excess of questions on comic books in the trash distribution (everyone knows whose fault that is). The tournament also set off a large discussion about the writing of music questions, due to a tossup on the Leningrad Symphony containing some technical middle clues that were not uniquely identifying.

EFT 3 was also notably the subject of Christian Flow's Mind Games Article in the Harvard Crimson, which followed the exploits for Dallas Simons and the Harvard B team.

Set Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
EFT 3 New England
(main site)
Brown October 4, 2008 Harvard A Dartmouth A Stats Packets
California UCLA October 4, 2008 UCLA 2 UCSD A & Stanford (tie) Stats
Mid-Atlantic Wake Forest October 11, 2008 Maryland B Virginia Stats
Florida FSU Stats
Midwest Illinois Stats
Southeast Vanderbilt Stats

Broken stats link

2007

EFT 2, subtitled Rataplan Ghost Rides the World War I Ambulance, was written by Dennis Jang, Eric Mukherjee, and Jerry Vinokurov, with the same goal as the previous incarnation. Mirrors were held at Brown, UCLA, USF, William and Mary, Chicago, Vanderbilt, and OU, with the main mirror taking place on September 29, 2007.

Rutgers won the Brown mirror after defeating Harvard, with Jason Keller winning the individual scoring award. The tournament was a huge logistical nightmare however, and prizes couldn't be given because stats were not compiled in time. Surprisingly, people did not complain.

The question set itself was praised fairly highly, with some qualms about the length of the questions (which averaged somewhere between 6 and 7 lines), the difficulty of tossups on Tlaloc and Legendre, the representation of the social science canon (some liked it, some didn't) and a factual error about the writer of Harrision Bergeron. The two packets written exclusively by Jerry were also seen as much more difficult than the others. Willie Chen returned briefly to complain about problems in the set that didn't exist, but was quickly refuted by Eric and Chris Ray.

Set Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
EFT 2 New England
(main site)
Brown September 29, 2007 Rutgers Harvard Stats Packets
Texas/Oklahoma Oklahoma September 29, 2007 UT-Austin Harding Stats
California UCLA October 6, 2007 Irvine A UCLA B Prelims, Playoffs
Florida USF October 6, 2007 Not available
Mid-Atlantic William and Mary October 6, 2007 Maryland A Penn Stats
Midwest Chicago October 6, 2007 Minnesota B Illinois A & UIC (tie) Prelims, Playoffs
Southeast Vanderbilt October 6, 2007 Alabama A WUSTL A Stats

Broken stats link

2006

The first incarnation was written by Seth Teitler, Ryan Westbrook, Jerry Vinokurov, and Selene Koo, with the intent being to have an additional early-season novice tournament that, unlike ACF Fall, did not require teams to submit a packet to play. EFT was held at several regional sites over the weekends of October 7-8 and October 14-15, 2006. Host schools included Chicago, Brown, Maryland, Texas, Georgia Tech, USF, and UCLA.

Feedback can be found in this thread. Overall, this tournament was received with praise. Much of the commentary revolved around the difficulty of "hard" bonus parts as well as niche subjects like world literature and social science.

Set Region Host Date Champion Second Stats Packets
EFT 1 New England
(main site)
Brown October 7, 2006 Yale A Rutgers Stats Packets
California UCLA October 7, 2006 Stanford A UCLA A Stats
Florida USF October 7, 2006 Not available
Texas UT-Austin October 7, 2006 Not available
Southeast Georgia Tech October 8, 2006 Vanderbilt Kentucky Stats
Midwest Chicago October 14, 2006 Chicago A Michigan A Prelims, Playoffs

Broken stats link